Crime & Punishment

Sure you do :D

And I've admitted I'm not relevant several times before. Unlike marmite, I'm quite happy to admit that my existence only matters to me. Whether or not people know and like me on a computer game forum isn't exactly the be all and end all of my life.

Even your CFC friends told you to stop falling for our trolls

Look Lucas, A 1337 pvp'ing Marmite !

About damn time he joined a corp again..... WARR !!

Prove it or stfu.


Our wars are either alliance given or member given. If one / several players in our alliance want's to kill a corp full of industrials (example), then it's their choice and not the alliances choice. Oh also, we war dec whoever we want, because we can. Everything inside a war that's profitable for us is something we are going to execute.


No, our wars are there because they bring us the oppoturnity to earn alot of isks and because we can and want to have fun. Show me any who doesn't want to have fun in EVE?


Awwww, cute. I think i did hit a nice spot with my argument there as you had to call me a moron (name calling). When it have gone so far, then you have lost.


My evidence is that we have a steady income every weeks from alot of customers who just want to use our services. If they keep coming back, they must be happy with us, right?

And haven't it sinked into your head yet that we do whatever we can do kill while at the same time makes sure to be safe without having to take unneccesary risks?

But that's not enough. You can take HUGE amounts of risks inside the docking range of a station or a gate to. It all depends on what we are meeting / fighting. Once you agress, you have 1 minute before you can dock up or jump to the next system.

And to the last thing about my kills. My kills is gained because EVE is a multiplayer game where playing with others is a huge part of the game. Being a solo PVPer isn't what makes you a good PVPer.

Prove what, that you misunderstand the english language, or that your customers haven't been posting to tell us how great you are. Not really much proving needed, since both cases speak for themselves.

LOL, ok, so you guys pick who you dec, and yet you don;t care who you dec, except of course you do because you choose them. Can you not see how incredibly badly you've dug yourself into that hole? The short of it is that you pick many of your targets and do so because they are easy. Thanks for the confirmation I guess.

I present to you your leader, Gevlon. Fun is stupid according to him. And no, your wars are there because those targets are easy and allow you to build up a false image of your level of skill.

HAHAHA go and read your "argument". You argument was claiming that all responses are tears. AS for the whole name calling thing: pot, meet kettle.

Customers you can't prove exist. Your war decs could be 100% in house wardecs for all we know. The only customers posting here are dissatisfied ones.

And yes, I get it. How many times do I have to repeat it to you. I understand that you take low risk fights to build up your efficiency, but that does not make you elite. Elite players are competent at PvP, which you clearly are not which is why you have to go 10 on 1 to a hauler.

And yes, you have 1 minute, which is nothing. The amount of neutral logi you field makes sure that any ships you risk are of minimal value.

And your kills still mean nothing. They don't prove you are elite, they just prove you can blob a hauler. Do you expect people to roll over and hand you a medal for doing something that any 2 day old noob can do?

You have to prove it that no one is happy with out services. You claim that no one is saying anything about our services, so it must be bad. So prove it that our services are bad then.


Like i told you earlier. Many of our wars comes from customers while other wars comes from single members within the alliance. So yes, we war dec whoever our customers want's us to war dec. And our members in the alliance is also free to hand out a war dec to whoever they want. EVE is a game of freedom. You can do whatever you want to do in this game. So i find it funny that you think it's stupid to have the freedom to choose who to war dec when the tools are in the game to do that.

Marmite do whatever that pleases them. In the same way as you do whatever you want to do in EVE that pleases you, because you can.


Awwww, soooo cute man. You are talking about me being a fanboy of Kai86. Look, you takes it to a WHOLE new lever of sucking someones balls here. Maybe you should just hide before you makes yourself to look like an idiot?


Maybe you should look at your own arguments before you call me out on my argument towards you. Just sayin.


Lol, like we cares about 2-3 out of like million customers. Oh ******* noes. 3 peoples isn't happy with our services. Well, this might be news @ 11 for you, but we can't please everybody. How about that?

Was that new to you?

If yes, welcome to EVE / real life.

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Efficiency is what brings us customers, and customers brings us isk and fun. So yes, we are elite that way. Why do you think we kill so much?

Marmite is here to kill stuffs, not do be a part of some gay honor game. We are here for the explosions and to gain isks and to get more customers for our services. If you don't like our services witch we are elite at doing, then there is always someone else that can do another service for you in an elite way.


1 minute is enough to get steamrolled fully over when you consider how many wars we have. Our war targets can even cooperate together against us without we knowing about it. They can use some more unknown players as shield to trick us into thinking they are easy prey while they are sitting ready with someone that isn't that easy to kill that will warp in on us when we aggro.

That 1 minute timer is quite alot then. Even 30 seconds here wouldn't really help. I know this by many years experience in doing empire wars.

Do you know how many times i would die inside the docking range if i haven't been experienced and smart enough to see baits?

What does the 1 minute timer helps with when 15 battleships is sitting on top of your ass the second you aggro?

You will die within 10-15 seconds then.

Again, maybe you should come to empire and do merc business or do empire war decs your self to actually experience this your self before you speaks about this?


No, to YOU they are nothing. You don't speaks for other than just yourself. My kills means alot ot many others. You don't like that?

In that case, cry me a river.

You are posting in a thread started by a dissatisfied customer, lol.

Indeed you do, and you are welcome to. So you pick easy targets, which you are fully able to do. And thus you are not the elite PvPers you claim to do, as elite PvPer would choose a challenge over easy kills.

Lol? So are you saying you guys aren't pushing Gevlons agenda? Tora links to his blog all the time, you sub alliance also run by Tora was invented by Gevlon, and your current strategic direction is decided by Gevlon as it has been for months. Do you seriously not understand your own chain of command?

lol, the "I know you are so what am I" defense. Good show kiddo.

So this is your admission that you don't care about the level of satisfaction your customers receive? You should quote that one in your alliance description. And all the evidence suggest that you actually have very few customers, as you would expect to see a lot more feedback if you had as many customers as you claim. Again, this is why over 50% of your wars are zero valued, because you take wars against groups you know will have no impact so you can claim they were customers requests.

You kill "so much" because you like to chestbeat and claim to be far superior than you actually are. I'm going to continue to be the voice of reason, putting you in your place until the end of time. Because it's funny.


Sure it can, except you make sure you are never taking a high risk with any expensive ships. You won't engage if there are too many wartargets nearby, and I've been on your comms when you've spoken about it, so I know first hand what a risk averse bunch of pansies you are, lol. You always make sure that anything expensive you have isn't committed. You have a good reason to as well, since you get booted if you risk the isk efficiency too much.

So no, I don't disagree that you are mitigating the risks that could exist if you just went charging in like idiots, but that makes you more risk averse, not less.

Because you know everything about me and know I have zero experience, right?

No, they mean a lot to you. Most peopel would agree that killboard stats are meaningless, and that most of the time are massively inflated as everyone on a kill get's credited for the whole kill. So a 70b titan kill with 100 people on it credits a total of 7T isk in damages to the attackers.

Only to the noobest of hisec mission grinding corps. You are scraping the barrel here. You aren't disrupting anything done by players with half a brain and some knowledge on public courier contracting.


HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah, "the terror". That must be it. Not waiting for Dave. Because when Dave gets here and our fleet undocks Marmites are not going to dock, because Marmites aren't afraid of losing ships right?


Oh, so you win if the other guy doesn't undock? Ahhh, I did not realise we get to define our own victory conditions in a war. In that case we won the moment Dave got here. Sorry to keep you waiting.


Indeed, why HUNT like predators when you can sit next to a pond and catch flies? Don't choke on Dave now.