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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-07-15 14:44:46 UTC
Jack Morrison wrote:
I sadly don't have the numbers you seek, if i had them i wouldn't have started this thread. Since i don't have the numbers i asked others if they experienced a similar decline in active contacts as me. The initial statement was done in hope to have -1/-2 'eve is dying' posts and more of those kind of Altirius Saldiaro's.

Mr. Saldiaro's post is interesting.

Tech companies in Taiwan and Bangalore have record employee turnarounds. Both are exploding with tech companies and tech employees often jump to another job for a bump in pay. This sort of activity isn't enough to conclude, one way or another, if a company is dying. Larger companies often spend significant resources to train employees whom they lose to smaller companies. All these companies grow and shrink their operations frequently.

Some EVE players love the game. Some are still discovering it. Some are so overwhelmed by it that they're on their way out. Some have RL situations tugging at them. Some have way too much time on their hands. Some just play with one account. Some sub multiple accounts. There are a lot of factors and I think discussions of *statistical trends* are useful.

I don't see the concurrent user graph as a trend. I see spikes and dips. I also don't see your particular experience as a trend. I see very localized, individual experiences in this thread that contribute (in a very insignificant way) to an overall statistic. And the large scale statistic is still very murky in terms of whether EVE is just fine, or on the decline.

I think it's useful to have discussions of individual experiences, but it is disingenuous to frame these experiences as indicative of a larger trend.

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-07-15 15:33:21 UTC
Sodabro wrote:
ITT: bittervets crying about how the game used to be "better".


There is nothing new left to do in the game, and the new stuff ccp is adding in the "expansions" is garbage, how much more useless deployable junk needs to be added before we get some actual content. The game might not have been better but it used to be fun, now it's just stale and boring, and there is nothing indicating it's going to change.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-07-15 15:40:20 UTC
^^Content is added by you, not by CCP. CCP provides tools for making content.

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Winter Milan Chipri
#44 - 2014-07-15 15:48:01 UTC
player driven content != developer added content


What's so hard to get from this comparison?
Elmonky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-07-15 15:50:34 UTC
Off topic... is there a reason that Christine's avatar looks like Yo-landi Vi$$er?


I preferred Red Hair :(
Xavier Holtzman
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#46 - 2014-07-15 16:05:46 UTC
Jack Morrison wrote:
No , this ain't another 'EvE is dying' thread. EvE was and is dying.


This isn't another "you're a terrible neckbeard troll" response. You are and will continue to be a terrible neckbeard troll.Blink

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#47 - 2014-07-15 16:08:54 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
^^Content is added by you, not by CCP. CCP provides tools for making content.


CCP should remove missions, incursions, exploring and factional warfare and then we'll see how many players are left to create any content.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#48 - 2014-07-15 17:25:42 UTC
Plenty of tools that CCP could add to let us make our content (swap sov mechanics to those FW ones, PI where you could build real bases, research stations/production lines - that could be attacked from the orbit )

Back to the topic - how did your amount of active contacts change in the last (say 6) months ?

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Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#49 - 2014-07-15 17:26:27 UTC
Xavier Holtzman wrote:
Jack Morrison wrote:
No , this ain't another 'EvE is dying' thread. EvE was and is dying.


This isn't another "you're a terrible neckbeard troll" response. You are and will continue to be a terrible neckbeard troll.Blink


deal

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-07-15 17:37:41 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Jack Morrison wrote:
No , this ain't another 'EvE is dying' thread. EvE was and is dying.

DON'T SAY THIS! IT WILL MAKE IT TRUE!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=358366

EDIT: After posting this I went back to the op to see if there was any content worth commenting on. There wasn't. 1/10 OP.

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Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#51 - 2014-07-15 17:44:53 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Jack Morrison wrote:
No , this ain't another 'EvE is dying' thread. EvE was and is dying.

DON'T SAY THIS! IT WILL MAKE IT TRUE!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=358366

EDIT: After posting this I went back to the op to see if there was any content worth commenting on. There wasn't. 1/10 OP.


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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#52 - 2014-07-15 18:05:03 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Lucky bastard being able to go back 6 months in your mailbox...



heheh i can go back years no ones send me ....

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Li Quiao
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2014-07-15 18:13:42 UTC
Jack Morrison wrote:

wow, finally an answer i was looking for, thanks man!


Translation: I said Eve was dying and I'm not interested in hearing any evidence to the contrary.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#54 - 2014-07-15 18:24:45 UTC
The biggest reason why people burn out and stop playing is a very simple one.

Cabin fever.

How does that happen in a MMO? Alts. At first, you add an innocent cyno alt... but that's just the first snowflake in an unstoppable avalanche. You add haulers, PI alts, market alts, booster alts and whatever else your heart may desire. Multiboxing carriers? No problem. Then you find yourself in a corner of space that you have carved out for yourself, your own empire. But along the way your existance in New Eden has become the goal rather than the means to an end. An endless stream of tasks to perform to ensure the upkeep of your little golden horde. Other pilots have become blips on d-scan, interacting with them in any meaningful has become a nuisance rather than a pleasure...

And then you ask yourself: "What's left to do in EvE?"

And the answer is nothing. You have done it all, congratulations!

And with a nostalgic sigh of a better time you let your accounts expire, disappearing into the dark corners of space from whence you once came in a frigate.

Gone, not even a small blip on somebody's d-scan... but the others, they keep marching on, relentlessly fueling their own conquests of the downwards spiral of madness that their game has become, their ventures nothing but a footnote in the book of space history...
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#55 - 2014-07-15 18:30:44 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Lucky bastard being able to go back 6 months in your mailbox...



heheh i can go back years no ones send me ....

::jelly:: I can cheer if I can go back a month

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-07-15 18:54:45 UTC
Hairtrigger wrote:
ive just put two 100m+ alts to sleep.

and the way its lookin this one is goin to bed as soon i hit 200m in a couple of mths.

eve just aint what it used to be


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And by stuff, I mean characters.

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Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#57 - 2014-07-15 19:23:11 UTC
Li Quiao wrote:
Jack Morrison wrote:

wow, finally an answer i was looking for, thanks man!


Translation: I said Eve was dying and I'm not interested in hearing any evidence to the contrary.


If you say so.

I don't wanna hear EvE is dying, it is my impression a lot of piltos with different background have gone inactive. I would love to hear somebody saying - well F* you mister and your impressions, i got 20 eve noobs in my corp. But if you check the posts in the thread, no one replied having more players to interact with compared to half a year ago.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#58 - 2014-07-15 20:22:50 UTC
Jack Morrison wrote:
No , this ain't another 'EvE is dying' thread. EvE was and is dying.




Wait .... it isn't an eve is dying thread statement followed immediatly by an eve is dying statement .... Shocked

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El Zylcho
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2014-07-15 21:24:47 UTC
The better question or inquiry might be to survey those who stay for relatively long periods of time over a longer arc of time. Breaks are understandable, but why do some people stay for so long while others do not?

Add to that thought, research shows it's less expensive to keep an existing customer than it is to have to acquire a new one :-)
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#60 - 2014-07-15 21:42:28 UTC
The usual summer lull + an expansion dedicated to industry + a stagnant nullsec meta where either thousands of megathrons or hundreds of supercaps decide the winner = low log-on numbers.