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Character baazar flooded by high SP characters.
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Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#41 - 2014-07-14 16:02:17 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
PLEX prices are about as much CCP's call as character bazaar rates are.


CCP could effect change in plex prices very very easily. All they would have to do is have a plex sale which is more than 5-10% off..

Theyve already started putting on the launcher a plex rates are high sign with a link to the buy plex page. Although thats probably not enough.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#42 - 2014-07-14 16:06:56 UTC
Icarus Able wrote:
Theyve already started putting on the launcher a plex rates are high sign with a link to the buy plex page. Although thats probably not enough.

Not just probably, but very very likely. Even a brief glance at the PLEX market history will show that there's pretty much nothing to suggest that higher PLEX (ISK) prices leads to more (RL) PLEX purchases. Reminding people of that high price won't make much of difference if/since the price (obviously) isn't enough to draw in customers.
Steve Celeste
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-07-14 16:10:07 UTC
100m+ chars with good names are still extremely rare.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2014-07-14 16:14:52 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
Theyve already started putting on the launcher a plex rates are high sign with a link to the buy plex page. Although thats probably not enough.

Not just probably, but very very likely. Even a brief glance at the PLEX market history will show that there's pretty much nothing to suggest that higher PLEX (ISK) prices leads to more (RL) PLEX purchases. Reminding people of that high price won't make much of difference if/since the price (obviously) isn't enough to draw in customers.


Aside from which, the issue is not how many PLEX are sold, it is how many make it to the market. There is some indication that a lot of the PLEX sold in cheap sales are just stockpiled as investments.
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#45 - 2014-07-14 16:16:03 UTC
Steve Celeste wrote:
100m+ chars with good names are still extremely rare.



Any Skill Point amount character on the Bazaar with a good name is rare. So many stupid names, no wonder they are trying to get rid of the characters.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2014-07-14 16:23:11 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
Steve Celeste wrote:
100m+ chars with good names are still extremely rare.



Any Skill Point amount character on the Bazaar with a good name is rare. So many stupid names, no wonder they are trying to get rid of the characters.


You should try buying a shelf company, especially in Asia.
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#47 - 2014-07-14 16:48:13 UTC
Didn't Hypocrit Spirit say she leaves? Oh she did, iirc.

She's still here! Wow, who would have thought!

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Gridloader
Limitless Capabilities
#48 - 2014-07-14 16:48:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Gridloader
There is no need to keep high skillpoint characters in this game... there is no benefit from this... except ISK from sale
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-07-14 17:35:35 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Also, if people stop playing, they don't sell their characters — after all, what would be the point?


To get ISK to plex their main?

I pretty much quit playing since about 6 weeks ago and have been thinking of selling an alt so I don't have to log on and bore myself to death grinding out a plex.


Why did you quit playing, and why are you still plexing your main?


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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#50 - 2014-07-14 17:51:28 UTC
Naw... all those 100m SP toons just don't have a reason to undock their SCaps anymore... might as well go play WoW. P

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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#51 - 2014-07-14 17:57:50 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Also, if people stop playing, they don't sell their characters — after all, what would be the point?


To get ISK to plex their main?

I pretty much quit playing since about 6 weeks ago and have been thinking of selling an alt so I don't have to log on and bore myself to death grinding out a plex.


Why did you quit playing, and why are you still plexing your main?


Because I just bought PAYDAY 2 and I'm playing it non-stop.

I usually wander back to EVE when there's nothing else to play and get back into it, or when CCP releases some content...

3-4 months of EVE Offline does a character good.

Not today spaghetti.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#52 - 2014-07-14 19:43:53 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
"hurr durr eve is dying"

Some people train toons specifically to sell them and make bank.

People train them for 5 years just sell them?

Interesting theory.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#53 - 2014-07-14 19:59:37 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
"hurr durr eve is dying"

Some people train toons specifically to sell them and make bank.

People train them for 5 years just sell them?

Interesting theory.



It also supports High plex price theory.

If you are skilling 3 characters from the same account and burning 3 Plex in the process, mostly to sell and enough people are doing it, you create loop inflation on both.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#54 - 2014-07-14 20:09:14 UTC
There is such a surplus of characters right now that you take a pretty hefty loss on characters if you just calculate based on PLEX price. Oh, and the transfer fee too.

Bacon makes us stronger
Marsha Mallow
#55 - 2014-07-14 20:26:08 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
"hurr durr eve is dying"

Some people train toons specifically to sell them and make bank.

People train them for 5 years just sell them?

Interesting theory.

It also supports High plex price theory.

If you are skilling 3 characters from the same account and burning 3 Plex in the process, mostly to sell and enough people are doing it, you create loop inflation on both.

People don't train alts for 5 years purely to sell. Despite inflation, most characters in the 90-150m range sell for 30-60b (top prices being rare). It's a terrible ROI, and I'm pretty sure that "interesting theory" remark was sarcastic (but misdirected since Remiel was probably talking about low sp alts anyway).

I know cartweeling up and down yodelling hysterically is a hobby for some, but there's really no need to panic over seeing slightly higher than normal numbers of high SP characters listed. Character trading is a cyclical market, with a number of active traders, as well as demand peaks/dips. If they start selling for ridiculously low prices I still wouldn't bat an eye as traders will just snap them up and sit on them until demand increases.

It's possible people have used MCT to buff unfinished/redundant alts and sell them off, or to consolidate their accounts. Downsizing in response to higher plex prices doesn't reinforce the sub/PCU drop argument. The original player isn't necessarily quiting, and the character remains in circulation. Selling alts whilst plex prices are high to try jack up the price isn't an unreasonable strategy. It's not a doomsday scenario and it's happened several times in the last couple of years (particularly after B-R).

Anyone using MCT to train 3 characters at once to sell focused low sp alts is doing it wrong, and probably losing ISK. I'm hoping you can work out why.

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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#56 - 2014-07-14 20:31:16 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
stuff


5b for ur toon

Bacon makes us stronger
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#57 - 2014-07-14 20:45:01 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Ocih wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
"hurr durr eve is dying"

Some people train toons specifically to sell them and make bank.

People train them for 5 years just sell them?

Interesting theory.

It also supports High plex price theory.

If you are skilling 3 characters from the same account and burning 3 Plex in the process, mostly to sell and enough people are doing it, you create loop inflation on both.


People don't train alts for 5 years purely to sell. Despite inflation, most characters in the 90-150m range sell for 30-60b (top prices being rare). It's a terrible ROI, and I'm pretty sure that "interesting theory" remark was sarcastic (but misdirected since Remiel was probably talking about low sp alts anyway).

I know cartweeling up and down yodelling hysterically is a hobby for some, but there's really no need to panic over seeing slightly higher than normal numbers of high SP characters listed. Character trading is a cyclical market, with a number of active traders, as well as demand peaks/dips. If they start selling for ridiculously low prices I still wouldn't bat an eye as traders will just snap them up and sit on them until demand increases.

It's possible people have used MCT to buff unfinished/redundant alts and sell them off, or to consolidate their accounts. Downsizing in response to higher plex prices doesn't reinforce the sub/PCU drop argument. The original player isn't necessarily quiting, and the character remains in circulation. Selling alts whilst plex prices are high to try jack up the price isn't an unreasonable strategy. It's not a doomsday scenario and it's happened several times in the last couple of years (particularly after B-R).

Anyone using MCT to train 3 characters at once to sell focused low sp alts is doing it wrong, and probably losing ISK. I'm hoping you can work out why.



"cartweeling up and down yodelling hysterically". is what almost everything gets spun in to. Most people are just replying to threads and not doing sabbaticals at a monastery to ponder the deep meaning of their every reply.

As for understanding why people do things in EVE?
I don't even try.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-07-14 20:50:59 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
stuff


5b for ur toon

5.5b Belgian chocolates b/o

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#59 - 2014-07-14 21:13:37 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Carmen Electra wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
stuff


5b for ur toon

5.5b Belgian chocolates b/o


7b for Sibyyl

Bacon makes us stronger
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2014-07-14 21:18:08 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
misdirected

cartwheeling

yodelling hysterically

cyclical

peaks/dips

wouldn't bat an eye

snap them up

whilst

jack up
The amount of pure English language win is staggering. EVE-O, free English lessons for non-native speakers!

Though my favourite Marsha Mallow word is 'cavorting'. 'Cartwheeling' is now a close second.

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