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Titania Hrothgar
Nemesis Retribution
#1 - 2011-11-20 11:49:48 UTC
I am fairly new to this game still... out of the almost 12 months, I've only played a couple of them.

One thing I don't like about this game is the Local channel. I wish it worked like the Corp channel does.

In Corp, only those who speak show up in the little list. Out of a hundred and 15 in my corp, I at most see 4 names.

In Local, the moment someone warps into the sector I see their name, portrait, and the number of people in Local goes up. Isn't there any way to maintain radio silence? What if I wish to venture through low sec without having my radio on? Everyone knows to use Local to know RIGHT when someone warps in or out. Without even having any scanning skills what so ever I know immediately how many ships are in any sector and the names of all the pilots.

I think Low Sec would be MUCH better and enjoyable if not only GOOD people could sneak in and out, but if PIRATES could as well. It would also be more realistic.

Anyway, that's my opinion. Some will like it and some won't. Don't really care either way. It won't change how I feel :)

All the world's a stage and all the men and women are the players.
woe kitten
Any hole's a goal
#2 - 2011-11-20 11:57:48 UTC
I agree. I also remember that such thing was being developed half a year ago, no idea how far it got.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-11-20 11:58:22 UTC
from your lips to the gods' ears...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-11-20 11:58:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ris Dnalor
gah, forums got ganked.... disreagard the double post.




actually, wait... does this forum-ganking thing occur when two people try to reply to a thread simultaneously?? say it isn't so....

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-20 12:13:22 UTC
nah

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-11-20 12:20:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Titania Hrothgar wrote:
Anyway, that's my opinion. Some will like it and some won't. Don't really care either way. It won't change how I feel :)


I have my opinion, i don't care what other say,
i don't care about reasoning,
i don't care if i didn't think this through,
i don't care that i have no clue about what's REALLY happening,
i just have my opinion and my opinion is right.


That's what dumb people say quite often.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-11-20 12:30:07 UTC
Just a friendly reminder that CCP are planning to remove local's intel properties in nullsec (and possibly lowsec) systems.
It will be replaced with another intelligence tool, however.
No, D-Scan doesn't count. Too much clicky clicky clicky and not enough usability or shiny.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946


I thought this was going to come for Winter, but CCP's redirection has changed that. Maybe it was Summer 2012 all along, however.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2011-11-20 12:36:13 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Just a friendly reminder that CCP are planning to remove local's intel properties in nullsec (and possibly lowsec) systems.
It will be replaced with another intelligence tool, however.
No, D-Scan doesn't count. Too much clicky clicky clicky and not enough usability or shiny.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946


I thought this was going to come for Winter, but CCP's redirection has changed that. Maybe it was Summer 2012 all along, however.


And it's never been followed up on in any recent dev blog since then.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#9 - 2011-11-20 12:59:11 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Just a friendly reminder that CCP are planning to remove local's intel properties in nullsec (and possibly lowsec) systems.
It will be replaced with another intelligence tool, however.
No, D-Scan doesn't count. Too much clicky clicky clicky and not enough usability or shiny.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946

I thought this was going to come for Winter, but CCP's redirection has changed that. Maybe it was Summer 2012 all along, however.

I should read that blog a few more times I don't actually see them say they're going to remove local channel. Just ways to improve handling intel, time invested in intel and how up-to-date the intel is. Do they actually say they'll remove local? Or are you just reading more into it? :P
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#10 - 2011-11-20 13:02:15 UTC
Working as intended™

No problem detected™

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Titania Hrothgar
Nemesis Retribution
#11 - 2011-11-20 16:29:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Titania Hrothgar
Solstice Project wrote:
Titania Hrothgar wrote:
Anyway, that's my opinion. Some will like it and some won't. Don't really care either way. It won't change how I feel :)


I have my opinion, i don't care what other say,
i don't care about reasoning,
i don't care if i didn't think this through,
i don't care that i have no clue about what's REALLY happening,
i just have my opinion and my opinion is right.


That's what dumb people say quite often.


Yes, they do say that quite often :) I have heard dumb people say that many times.

I went ahead and fixed your quoting error. Dumb people mess up quoting a lot.

All the world's a stage and all the men and women are the players.
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#12 - 2011-11-20 16:43:03 UTC
Local really should be replaced by constellation chat. There would be more people in the chat then. That in turn would just perhaps increase the chances of some player to player communication/interaction/whatever. Local chat compartmentalises people too much, especially in low sec where you might have only a soul or two, a handful at most, per system.

Before that some other type of intel gathering system should be created that, with skill and dedication, allows you to find out who/what is in the current system other than you.

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Russell Casey
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-11-20 16:52:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Russell Casey
Andski wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
Just a friendly reminder that CCP are planning to remove local's intel properties in nullsec (and possibly lowsec) systems.
It will be replaced with another intelligence tool, however.
No, D-Scan doesn't count. Too much clicky clicky clicky and not enough usability or shiny.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946


I thought this was going to come for Winter, but CCP's redirection has changed that. Maybe it was Summer 2012 all along, however.


And it's never been followed up on in any recent dev blog since then.


Yeah....Sad Guess this proves CSM are botters. Because only bots need local to be safe.
Razin
The Scope
#14 - 2011-11-20 17:43:23 UTC
Andski wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
Just a friendly reminder that CCP are planning to remove local's intel properties in nullsec (and possibly lowsec) systems.
It will be replaced with another intelligence tool, however.
No, D-Scan doesn't count. Too much clicky clicky clicky and not enough usability or shiny.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946


I thought this was going to come for Winter, but CCP's redirection has changed that. Maybe it was Summer 2012 all along, however.


And it's never been followed up on in any recent dev blog since then.

It's only been 3 months. The follow on discussion on the subject of 0.0 intel is quite enlightening. CCP Grayscale apparently plans to switch all local to delayed mode (including empire).
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-20 19:08:51 UTC
Russell Casey wrote:
Andski wrote:
DarkAegix wrote:
Just a friendly reminder that CCP are planning to remove local's intel properties in nullsec (and possibly lowsec) systems.
It will be replaced with another intelligence tool, however.
No, D-Scan doesn't count. Too much clicky clicky clicky and not enough usability or shiny.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=946


I thought this was going to come for Winter, but CCP's redirection has changed that. Maybe it was Summer 2012 all along, however.


And it's never been followed up on in any recent dev blog since then.


Yeah....Sad Guess this proves CSM are botters. Because only bots need local to be safe.


You understand that any mechanic that requires intel to be "active" would make botting even more efficient than human-at-the-helm ratting, right?

0.0 will become a ghost town populated solely by bots and a handful of people who still have the initiative to live there with their ISK making alts running L4s in empire.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-11-20 19:36:51 UTC
Andski wrote:
You understand that any mechanic that requires intel to be "active" would make botting even more efficient than human-at-the-helm ratting, right?


Are you implying that the removal of local would make botting easier?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-11-20 19:50:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Marlona Sky wrote:
Andski wrote:
You understand that any mechanic that requires intel to be "active" would make botting even more efficient than human-at-the-helm ratting, right?


Are you implying that the removal of local would make botting easier?


I believe that is exactly what I explicitly said, without a hint of subtlety, yes.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-11-20 20:58:51 UTC
Nope.
Endeavour Starfleet
#19 - 2011-11-20 21:06:28 UTC
Do NOT remove or delay local. It will cause nullsec to become a wasteland where only the biggest alliances play (And rarely actually fight because they have more than enough territory to charge extreme prices to defend)

You diddn't get your golem kill. Boo hoo. Nobody in nullsec is going to line up and put a bullseye on for you. Join a fleet and get into a battle and stop trying to kill nullsec to pad your solo kill numbers.
Jita Alt666
#20 - 2011-11-20 21:36:45 UTC
Delayed/removed local is not good for causal fun fast PVP
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