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NPE: Eliminate Intra-Corp Awoxing so Corps Will Recruit New Players
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Angelica Everstar
#41 - 2014-07-14 10:10:39 UTC
Some time ago I posted a thread about this very subject. I see this as one of the easiest things to fix (dev time) and one of the most important things to fix for the game overall. I even talked to and bribed some the devs and Hilmar into fixing this precise issue, with no resultant. Even at this and last year's FanFest.

Both now Goons are saying it, it might just happen Twisted


I would though love to pass on Hilmar's suggestion :
Make "blue-on-blue"/"awoxing" an option for corps.
I then suggested to make it public like corp tax levels, add an hour or more delay from changing the setting along with a notification mail.


I really REALLY hope they fix this and soon, or at least in the coming corp changes.

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Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-07-14 12:43:21 UTC
It's pretty funny...might have been hilarious but my coffee is still working on getting me going...to see all the "wtf? No you can't do that, you don't know ****-all about what made EvE great or what makes it tick!" replies to an idea from Mittens and placed here without his name deliberately.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#43 - 2014-07-14 14:32:59 UTC
Hiply Rustic wrote:
It's pretty funny...might have been hilarious but my coffee is still working on getting me going...to see all the "wtf? No you can't do that, you don't know ****-all about what made EvE great or what makes it tick!" replies to an idea from Mittens and placed here without his name deliberately.



U think because its an idea from 'mittens' its automatically a good idea?

The OP posted a link to the original article by the Mittani. I dnt think ppl missed the origin here.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#44 - 2014-07-14 15:20:30 UTC
Sorry but it's a no from me.

I'm all for improving new player information and guidance input, but all this does is remove consequences.
If you wish to give new players help, then provide them with the proper information.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#45 - 2014-07-14 16:29:23 UTC
OP is one of carebears that want to remove the sandbox.

Do you really have to make two shitposting threads?

This isn't the game you are looking for.

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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2014-07-14 16:59:27 UTC  |  Edited by: afkalt
Arya Regnar wrote:
OP is one of carebears that want to remove the sandbox.

Do you really have to make two shitposting threads?

This isn't the game you are looking for.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, goonswarm are well known carebears.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#47 - 2014-07-14 17:09:02 UTC
afkalt wrote:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, goonswarm are well known carebears.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Wasn't that mittani post a joke?

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Dave stark
#48 - 2014-07-14 18:05:52 UTC
Hiply Rustic wrote:
It's pretty funny...might have been hilarious but my coffee is still working on getting me going...to see all the "wtf? No you can't do that, you don't know ****-all about what made EvE great or what makes it tick!" replies to an idea from Mittens and placed here without his name deliberately.



how is it without his name? the op quite clearly links the article that he put his name to.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-07-14 23:21:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Arya Regnar wrote:
afkalt wrote:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, goonswarm are well known carebears.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Wasn't that mittani post a joke?
Didn't read like one.

"You're also an idiot and obsessed with 'principles' which will eventually kill Eve." doesn't seem like a very jokey accusation to levy in such an article with no disclaimer or apparent sarcasm or telling change in tone of writing.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#50 - 2014-07-14 23:47:02 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
afkalt wrote:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, goonswarm are well known carebears.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Wasn't that mittani post a joke?
Didn't read like one.

"You're also an idiot and obsessed with 'principles' which will eventually kill Eve." doesn't seem like a very jokey accusation to levy in such an article with no disclaimer or apparent sarcasm or telling change in tone of writing.


The post prior to that one alludes to the possibility of just saying inflammatory things to publicly **** off reddit.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2014-07-14 23:50:28 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
The post prior to that one alludes to the possibility of just saying inflammatory things to publicly **** off reddit.
Indeed, though in a post that describes doing so by speaking what he feels is actually the truth so v0v.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#52 - 2014-07-14 23:50:55 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
afkalt wrote:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes, goonswarm are well known carebears.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Wasn't that mittani post a joke?
Didn't read like one.

"You're also an idiot and obsessed with 'principles' which will eventually kill Eve." doesn't seem like a very jokey accusation to levy in such an article with no disclaimer or apparent sarcasm or telling change in tone of writing.


The post prior to that one alludes to the possibility of just saying inflammatory things to publicly **** off reddit.


I think the article banner is all the indication you need.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-07-14 23:55:57 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:
I think the article banner is all the indication you need.
Maybe I'm just not enough into the meta here, but I'm assuming alluding to WoW = auto troll is the lesson supposedly invoked here?
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#54 - 2014-07-15 00:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaerakh
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:
I think the article banner is all the indication you need.
Maybe I'm just not enough into the meta here, but I'm assuming alluding to WoW = auto troll is the lesson supposedly invoked here?


Let me put it like this. Even if it wasn't, the fantasy setting is going to invoke a knee jerk reaction from the general populace for being remotely relateable to WoW. A mass manipulator such as Mittens is well aware of this and even went so far as to weave in some truths and commonly proposed bad ideas to hook people with. Most people can be sorted into Mittens followers or haters. Both groups are equally manipulable and knee jerky. That article(now that I've actually looked at it) is probably just him flexing an out of practice(or just straight practice) muscle so to speak.

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he didn't believe a single point that he made or inferred in that entire article.

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GordonO
BURN EDEN
#55 - 2014-07-15 00:48:53 UTC
I think it is a good idea to remove the ability for corporation members to shoot each other. Go hang out in the npc chats and see just how disappointed new players are that they can't get in to corps because of this. most of them will end up leaving.
And for those of you that think api or any other screening method will save you from awoxers... you clearly live in never never land.
I can spin up a new account and get it in to just about any corp without a trace of me being an awoxers alt. I can then sell said toon.. .if that is what I was in to. A toon a few months old can easily destroy a pve ship.

... What next ??
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#56 - 2014-07-15 00:57:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Bohneik Itohn
GordonO wrote:
I think it is a good idea to remove the ability for corporation members to shoot each other. Go hang out in the npc chats and see just how disappointed new players are that they can't get in to corps because of this. most of them will end up leaving.
And for those of you that think api or any other screening method will save you from awoxers... you clearly live in never never land.
I can spin up a new account and get it in to just about any corp without a trace of me being an awoxers alt. I can then sell said toon.. .if that is what I was in to. A toon a few months old can easily destroy a pve ship.



You first claim that it's a problem, and then immediately say that it isn't a problem and that you can get a new character into any corp....

Which is it, bud?

Edit: Forgot to mention that it would help if you understood the rules of selling characters also. A character has to be in an NPC corp before it can be sold in the Bazaar.

Just stopped in the thread to let people know I still chuckle a bit when I read the title.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-07-15 01:04:11 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:
I think the article banner is all the indication you need.
Maybe I'm just not enough into the meta here, but I'm assuming alluding to WoW = auto troll is the lesson supposedly invoked here?


Let me put it like this. Even if it wasn't, the fantasy setting is going to invoke a knee jerk reaction from the general populace for being remotely relateable to WoW. A mass manipulator such as Mittens is well aware of this and even went so far as to weave in some truths and commonly proposed bad ideas to hook people with. Most people can be sorted into Mittens followers or haters. Both groups are equally manipulable and knee jerky. That article(now that I've actually looked at it) is probably just him flexing an out of practice(or just straight practice) muscle so to speak.

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he didn't believe a single point that he made or inferred in that entire article.

Perhaps, though for the life of me I can't see this in itself rounding out to anything. If the article was in-genuine maybe some self congratulatory laughs at people for interpreting what he wrote as it was written, which makes about as much sense as CCP maliciously laughing at people who like PvP sandboxes.

Other than that we have a lot of people digging their heels in on their preconceived notion of choice. Job well done?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#58 - 2014-07-15 01:14:35 UTC
GordonO wrote:
I think it is a good idea to remove the ability for corporation members to shoot each other. Go hang out in the npc chats and see just how disappointed new players are that they can't get in to corps because of this. most of them will end up leaving.


I have two different scamming alts, so I spend a lot of time in NPC corp chat.

I can say for sure that I have never once heard what you describe. I've heard a lot of bizarre discussions, including a two hour vitriolic brickfight over what kind of reclining chair is the best, but I have never heard people say "*sigh*, if only people couldn't awox, then a player corp would let me in..."

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#59 - 2014-07-15 01:33:04 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I've heard a lot of bizarre discussions, including a two hour vitriolic brickfight over what kind of reclining chair is the best,


Please tell me you saved the log.... Lol

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#60 - 2014-07-15 01:37:27 UTC
Bohneik Itohn wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I've heard a lot of bizarre discussions, including a two hour vitriolic brickfight over what kind of reclining chair is the best,


Please tell me you saved the log.... Lol


Sorry no, and I have been kicking myself for that for months. A GM actually had to step in, pop into the chat, and tell everyone to cool off, it was that good.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.