EVE General Discussion

For what it's worth, Jan 1 is considered summer in the southern hemisphere.

Oh, you're one of those insufferable "I resubbed to ***** about the game" types.

Why is that obvious? Why stagnation and not stability?

stagnation
noun
1.
the state or condition of stagnating, or having stopped, as by ceasing to run or flow
2.
a foulness or staleness, as one emanating from a standing pool of water.
3.
a failure to develop, progress, or advance: periods of economic stagnation followed by bursts of growth.
4.
the state or quality of being or feeling sluggish and dull: Happily, they have been able to avoid stagnation in their ten-year marriage.


stability  
noun
1.
the state or quality of being stable.
2.
firmness in position.
3.
continuance without change; permanence.
4.
Chemistry . resistance or the degree of resistance to chemical change or disintegration.
5.
resistance to change, especially sudden change or deterioration: The stability of the economy encourages investment.

Seems to me that for an extremely niche game type, the population of EvE shows "resistance to change, especially sudden change or deterioration" not "having stopped, as by ceasing to run or flow"

Yeah.















You're blue to us

It's part of being a blobber.

Surprisingly, I agree with what he says. I think 99.999% of the goons are moronic retards, but this is an issue that has to be addressed. I want Eve to survive a long and prosperous life, mainly because I have so much time invested in it, and money.

When you compare a Tuesday and Wednesday in '13 and '14 against a Saturday in '11 like that, yes, it does look quite healthy. All those numbers show is that something must have gone horribly wrong just before '12 for the number to be that low on a Sunday. I wonder what that could have been?

Your negative assertion that NPC corps won't teach new players how to play the game is easily disproven. Log into one of your NPC alts and ask a noob question. I'll bet you get an answer. It may not be a good answer, but there is no greater guarantee you'll get a good answer in a player corp, and you don't have to quit the corp just for disagreeing, and all your **** won't be stranded in some low or null sec station because you disagreed with your "superior".

I don't think teaching another person how I play the game is bad, per se, but if that's all they ever learn, if they are discouraged and punished socially, physically, economically (within the confines of the game) for dissenting or deviating, THAT is bad. Now, go try to start a high sec mining or level 4 missioning fleet in your alliance channel and THEN come back at me with "We don't discourage or punish people for having a different playstyle." Please bring the transcripts of that interaction.



I see a lot of "vet players" giving out bad advice in the State War Academy channel. I see far fewer vet characters (i.e. characters with time and skillpoints invested in them) giving out bad advice in the State War Academy channel. That you are even aware of what goes on in noob corps leads me to believe that you spend a lot of time in them, despite having the character you are currently posting on. Would you care to elaborate as to why that is? And, could you also tell us how you know that new players would learn more from leaving the noob corp versus "staying in the kiddie pool"? It sounds like a lot of biased speculation to me.



Firstly, do tell us who the player is who gave such bad advice to a new player. I and a lot of other players that I know would shoot down "don't ever leave hisec" straight away.

Second, you are right that people in NPC corps will teach you HOW THEY play the game. The difference is that they can't blow you up (as easily), strand you in unsecure space (There's a funny story that contradicts that a little bit.), refuse to reimburse your losses (normally), steal your stuff (by taking it from a corp hangar), ostracize you (without being persuasive to others), etc. Also, there are lots of different people who won't all try to teach you the same exact things or impart the same philosophy on you.
Really, I can't speak to your experiences in NPC channels. I can only speak to what I've personally experienced, and what I've experienced is a diverse group of people with differing agendas and playstyles, from carebear miners to missioners to explorers, wormholers, swashbuckling pirate types, null sec grunts, and probably even a few big wigs. They may not have been on their main characters, but that doesn't invalidate any of what they said or did. There is a wealth of experience there for a new player who has an open mind and the patience to understand what he/she is being told.

Sure, they'll answer questions. But that's not teaching. Will an NPC corp teach you how to fly tackle? Will they teach you how to fly fleet logi?


Hahaha. Oh man. Feel free to ask RAZOR or 4S leadership what an obstinate **** I can be.


Why? This is not a highsec mining or level 4 missioning corporation/alliance. If that's what you want to do, there are corps for that. Does it make sense to join factional warfare and form C6 capital escalation fleets? No.

Expand what you mean (since I haven't really followed what this thread is about and I have many graphs here and there displaying various stuff hehe)

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