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Justin Cody
War Firm
#1 - 2014-07-12 03:10:20 UTC
Gas mining performance - good to fair.

  • Works well in low sec since people are largely too lazy to probe down gas sites
  • has respectable cap and tank and decent overall speed
  • Improvements that could be made: increase bonus to gas miner cycle time - or introduce a mining module that affects gas cycle time or harvester capacity.


Asteroid Mining performance - might as well mine in high sec in a barge

  • Works well in high sec or empty null but no drone bay leaves it vulnerable to npcs
  • Miner II's cycle too slowly for ninja mining
  • Improvements that could be made: combine both minig yield bonuses and add in a cycle time reduction bonus, Add 25m drone bay.


Or perhaps it could be un-nerfed and a third turret allowed.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#2 - 2014-07-13 02:00:38 UTC
Justin Cody wrote:
Gas mining performance - good to fair.

  • Works well in low sec since people are largely too lazy to probe down gas sites
  • has respectable cap and tank and decent overall speed
  • Improvements that could be made: increase bonus to gas miner cycle time - or introduce a mining module that affects gas cycle time or harvester capacity.


Asteroid Mining performance - might as well mine in high sec in a barge

  • Works well in high sec or empty null but no drone bay leaves it vulnerable to npcs
  • Miner II's cycle too slowly for ninja mining
  • Improvements that could be made: combine both minig yield bonuses and add in a cycle time reduction bonus, Add 25m drone bay.


Or perhaps it could be un-nerfed and a third turret allowed.


Opinion on Gas:
Improving it's Gas-Mining Capabilities would put it through the roof. You can pull some 80-100m ISK per hour in it already.

Opinion on mining:
It's max yield/income is kinda low, even when aiming especially for high-value ores.
Cloak is a huge plus.
Miner II's cycle time is irrelevant, if you stop midcycle, you get ore based on percent of cycle completed.




All in all, it's an impressive Gas-Harvester that's certainly lacking in the mining department.
Actually, it's so that you would only ever train expedition frigate to I, as that's all you need to get the stuff done it's supposed to get done - Scan down Gassites, refit tank / harvest, and pull in the millions of ISK.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#3 - 2014-07-13 20:43:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Justin Cody
well my alt has the expedition frigate skill to five...hence me wanting a bit more of a boost as I feel it may have been a bit of a waste. However my opinion *might* change if CCP ever brings back grav sites for exceedingly rare ore deposits.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#4 - 2014-07-14 10:43:58 UTC
Justin Cody wrote:
well my alt has the expedition frigate skill to five...hence me wanting a bit more of a boost as I feel it may have been a bit of a waste. However my opinion *might* change if CCP ever brings back grav sites for exceedingly rare ore deposits.


You've hit teh nail on the head. Getting Frigate 5 is fine, because frigates do a different job to Cruisers. But Barges are just out-right better than the Expedition frigates... meaning there isn't much reason to get it to 5.

Possible Changes:

Make it a Ninja-Null boat: Interdiction Nullification/Warp Core Strength/"invisible" to rats.

That and/or give it some insanely massive ore hold, similar to an entire hauler for long term, high value mining (Yes, bigger than 10k).
Ceren Abraham
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-07-14 11:24:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Ceren Abraham
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Justin Cody wrote:
Gas mining performance - good to fair.

    ...


Asteroid Mining performance - might as well mine in high sec in a barge

    ...


Or perhaps it could be un-nerfed and a third turret allowed.


Opinion on Gas:
Improving it's Gas-Mining Capabilities would put it through the roof. You can pull some 80-100m ISK per hour in it already.

Opinion on mining:
...



All in all, it's an impressive Gas-Harvester that's certainly lacking in the mining department.
Actually, it's so that you would only ever train expedition frigate to I, as that's all you need to get the stuff done it's supposed to get done - Scan down Gassites, refit tank / harvest, and pull in the millions of ISK.





Pretty much this.

The only thing I would like to see is small buff to its scanning capabilities.
My alt has the relevant support skills at IV, uses 3 scanning upgrades and sister probes (no probe launcher though) and has some issues on probing down certain sites.