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What do you mean by this?

Makes no difference where the interest payment comes from, Chribba or you. You're just gonna end up having to pay extra for Chribba's service.

Whats your max investment allowed?

You're optimistic . How much are you currently trading with?

Given that the Crius is coming out in 1.5 weeks, have you taken into account about how much the change will impact your trading and manufacturing setup?

What's on Sisi in terms of manufacturing numbers may not even be the final form. CCP's already stated in the past that they learn from Tyrannis when it comes to revealing those numbers before the expansion gets released.

Also, will you submit to an audit to verify that you are indeed involved with trading and manufacturing.

What I mean by audit is someone thrustworthy will take a peak at your transaction history and market history to verify that you are indeed trading and if that trading can support your statement that you can make 3.5% interest payment on 50b loan weekly.

Looking at your skills wouldn't hurt either to verify you are indeed building stuff.

That's why we have auditors, they look at your stuff and don't even bother to use that information, I can tell you that from my personal experience that I didn't care about what others were trading. The purpose is just to verify what you're saying. Anybody can come in MD, start a thread saying "I do lots of trading and manufacturing, gimmie 50b"

The purpose of using third party for any venture (except for collateral exchange) is completely useless. You can send interest payment and if 1 person out of 20 investors said they didn't receive interest payment, you can have an auditor verify if that's true or not.

Chribba cannot protect investors against false claims such as "I can make 1.75b a week doing trading and manufacturing". It's easy, yes but it's also easy to make a thread saying you can make that much in interest payment per week and bam, you're 50b richer because of some sapless rich eve player who didn't bother to do some fact checking.

Lets look at the facts here

1. Unknown to MD forum, no prior history. Only post prior to this thread is a recruitment thread.

2. 50b, no collateral, and with no prior history, that's unheard of unless you ran Phaser Inc.

3. No audit. Audits are by no means a perfect way to weed out scammers but it can at the very least verify that you are indeed doing what you claim to. I went over to Eveboard and found your skillset, it's not exactly an impressive set of skills for manufacturing but you do have decent skillset for trading.

4. You said 50b would be an increase of 50% of the capital available to you, so that means you have at least 100b of assets and liquid isk available. Are none of them available to use as collateral?

1. Yes, and I have to tell you I wasn't hoping an instant 50 billion isk deposit. My idea about of the procedure is that I could find a few smaller investors who would make small deposits and after suessful repays, they would raise their investments, some bigger investors would come and so on while I could build my own reputation with completed transactions. My only thing which in my opinion raises my trustworthiness to a level, where a minimum 100 million isk investment would be a fair risk taking considered the interest is that I come with my main, didn't bring any of my alts. I know reputation is everything in this area of business, and I have one chance to get in.

2. Read 1.

3. I must tell that manufacturing only produces about 5-10% of my current profit, a lot (and I mean really a lot) of space to expand in this territory, but my trade operation can drain alone that amount of capital, as I mentioned before. In the following weeks, I am planing to pour most of the isk into trading, during that, but a bit slower expanding my manufacturing. I understand one wants to know how his or her investment will be handled and how will it produce the correct interest, and we are on the edge of a serious industrial patch.

4. Not of a significant value, and also, they are in use 7/24.



Please read the above text if you have serious thoughts about the topic, anyway I do not know how to handle and reply to posts like yours. Thank you.

... in case if someone states I didn't send the payment.

If you're not willing to share your API then perhaps you could post some old or censored screenshots of your orders and transaction or industry history.

You have to remember that dozens of people with no history whose only intention is to get some easy ISK come here asking for money, make claims that they cannot prove for one reason or another and use exactly the same reasoning and arguments that you have. API checks simply weed out those who just post with unused alts begging for ISK.

Can you offer any collateral?