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laser ammo fixes
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Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-07-11 07:21:14 UTC
Very simple, much-requested feature: Fix laser ammo so it can be repaired and repackaged so when in bulk it doesn't clutter the hell out of the inventory, and we don't have a crystal sea of used and semi-damaged ammo.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#2 - 2014-07-11 08:09:46 UTC
reprocessing crystals into crystal goo which can then be used to repair other crystals of the same tech level was someones neat idea.

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#3 - 2014-07-11 09:19:29 UTC
Catherine Laartii wrote:
Very simple, much-requested feature: Fix laser ammo so it can be repaired and repackaged so when in bulk it doesn't clutter the hell out of the inventory, and we don't have a crystal sea of used and semi-damaged ammo.


There is nothing to fix. It would defeat the hole point of having crystals in the first place, they are the depleting ammunition otherwise nobody would ever have to built T2 or get faction crystals again once everyone got what they need.

If you want that, then repair missile stacks out of thin air, and hybrid charges and projectiles. Shocked

Kind of redundant thread.

If you were asking for a simple stacking option of 'damaged' crystals, I would support that. Repairing them: No.
Thorr VonAsgard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-07-11 10:08:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Thorr VonAsgard
but having hundreds of crystal amno in hangar is terribly bad cause of the 1000 items limit.

Also it's impossible to fit crystals with differents damage docked on a grouped guns ship...

What do we need is just a way to stack them in station without having to put them in containers...

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Anthar Thebess
#5 - 2014-07-11 11:46:02 UTC
I suggested long time ago.
We have 3 crystals 40% left each.
We click repair button , we get 1 crystal 100%.
We have 5 crystals 80% each , add 1 100% , merge them, and we get 5 100% crystals.

So this will be not repair itself , but just allowing people to remove 10 pages of scrolling from their ammo containers

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#6 - 2014-07-11 12:19:16 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
I suggested long time ago.
We have 3 crystals 40% left each.
We click repair button , we get 1 crystal 100%.
We have 5 crystals 80% each , add 1 100% , merge them, and we get 5 100% crystals.

So this will be not repair itself , but just allowing people to remove 10 pages of scrolling from their ammo containers

Re-crystalizing (merging) is something I would fully support.

Simply stacking undamaged values might be the way to got, add something to the menu tab,

---
refine
reprocess
recycle (re-crystalizing)
trash
---
Ix Method
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-07-11 14:10:37 UTC
Its suprising we've gone through all these Little Things expansions and never got some way to merge/stack crystals, such an obvious QoL improvement.

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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-11 14:39:48 UTC
Why can I still not see the damage on the crystals in my hangar until I load them in my guns and undock?
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#9 - 2014-07-11 15:51:28 UTC
I've suggested this before.

There should be some waste though.

5 20% shouldnt be 100%.
At least 20% waste so that you need 5 25% crystals to get 100%.

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#10 - 2014-07-11 16:10:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
Arya Regnar wrote:
I've suggested this before.

There should be some waste though.

5 20% shouldnt be 100%.
At least 20% waste so that you need 5 25% crystals to get 100%.

Well, I could live with that, but why ? A 100% crystal equals what - 3000 missiles or 5000 hybrid charges?. I don't remember losing some as waste when I move small packages around or stack them Roll.

And I know, launchers aren't turrets ... I bring that point up everytime myself, but regarding this issue it is the same, just a differnet counter/measure (appearance), but should have the same internal consequences and be stackable (merge-able).
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#11 - 2014-07-11 16:19:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Daichi Yamato
If u can use one type of crystal to 'top up' another type of crystal u need some kind of waste or something that prevents u from buying the cheapest crystal type of that meta level and reprocessing them to 'top up' more expensive crystals.

like using faction radio to repair faction multi frequency, or conflag to top up scorch.

either that or only allow crystals repair crystals of the exact same type and meta.

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Fer'isam K'ahn
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#12 - 2014-07-11 16:43:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
Daichi Yamato wrote:
If u can use one type of crystal to 'top up' another type of crystal u need some kind of waste or something that prevents u from buying the cheapest crystal type of that meta level and reprocessing them to 'top up' more expensive crystals.

like using faction radio to repair faction multi frequency, or conflag to top up scorch.

either that or only allow crystals repair crystals of the exact same type and meta.

Aeh ? Good point - Has there been a question like this ? You can't stack/refine/reprocess/sell/package/buy or whatever other mixed meta or faction ammo / mods either. Don't think this has ever been questioned ?!

I am sure we are all under the assumption we are talking identical crystals here (except for damage), otherwise this would be completely * + * + * + * + * + * + * (since it gets censored anyway).
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#13 - 2014-07-11 19:09:34 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Why can I still not see the damage on the crystals in my hangar until I load them in my guns and undock?


This.

If I could tell what is what I'd right click and discard.

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Stormfoot Stormfoot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-07-11 20:06:05 UTC
Anthar Thebess wrote:
I suggested long time ago.
We have 3 crystals 40% left each.
We click repair button , we get 1 crystal 100%.
We have 5 crystals 80% each , add 1 100% , merge them, and we get 5 100% crystals.

So this will be not repair itself , but just allowing people to remove 10 pages of scrolling from their ammo containers



CCP Please. This makes too much sense to ignore it
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-07-11 20:23:42 UTC
Thorr VonAsgard wrote:
but having hundreds of crystal amno in hangar is terribly bad cause of the 1000 items limit.

Also it's impossible to fit crystals with differents damage docked on a grouped guns ship...

What do we need is just a way to stack them in station without having to put them in containers...

which is why I have a ship dedicated to storing them in its cargo bay.
Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-07-11 20:24:29 UTC
Stormfoot Stormfoot wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:
I suggested long time ago.
We have 3 crystals 40% left each.
We click repair button , we get 1 crystal 100%.
We have 5 crystals 80% each , add 1 100% , merge them, and we get 5 100% crystals.

So this will be not repair itself , but just allowing people to remove 10 pages of scrolling from their ammo containers



CCP Please. This makes too much sense to ignore it

+1 brilliant idea.
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#17 - 2014-07-11 21:57:36 UTC
+1


or just show damage in a hanger whatever floats your boat CCP.
Adobe Raide
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-07-12 06:22:46 UTC
Lady Rift wrote:
+1


or just show damage in a hanger whatever floats your boat CCP.



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FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#19 - 2014-07-12 14:32:34 UTC  |  Edited by: FireFrenzy
Earlier this week i threw out 10 imperial navy multispectral M crystals because 5 of them were damaged and i COULD NOT figure out which ones were which, the other 5 were unpackaged, loaded once but never fired. And i could not repackage them because apparently once you take the shrink wrap off they can never be "practical and stack able" again.

So in the end i just deleted 5 brand new and perfectly never used crystals, 5 0,71 crystals because i could not see any difference in station and refused to un dock over a one or two million isk...
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#20 - 2014-07-12 14:44:59 UTC
FireFrenzy wrote:
Earlier this week i threw out 10 imperial navy multispectral M crystals because 5 of them were damaged and i COULD NOT figure out which ones were which, the other 5 were unpackaged, loaded once but never fired. And i could not repackage them because apparently once you take the shrink wrap off they can never be "practical and stack able" again.

So in the end i just deleted 5 brand new and perfectly never used crystals, 5 0,71 crystals because i could not see any difference in station and refused to un dock over a one or two million isk...

...Isn't that your fault then? I agree there's some pretty faulty and obtuse mechanics involving crystals, but your story is hardly inspiring towards changing that.

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