EVE General Discussion

Indeed? What do my portrait say then? =)

If you're not going to knock others for enjoying other aspects of Eve, why are you knocking people for enjoying other aspects of Eve?

Knock, knock.
-Who's there?
-Dunning-Kruger!

I'll bite

Well, maybe I got a little creative there. Maybe we both got creative with our shots across the bow. I think that for some people avatars do nothing, and that is perfectly valid. In the wide world of EVE entertainment people should only do things that are fun for them.

But I hope you understand that if people are "excited" about the character creator in EVE, they have that feeling because they find entertainment in that aspect of EVE. And unlike just about every other aspect of EVE, liking avatars and the character creator has no impact (positive or negative) in the controversial debate on EVE's features, rules, gameplay, etc. etc. that is raging on in the rest of GD.

Not this time hapily. thank you for my portrait, Christina Project too.




I think it just depend of people personality, some prefer tchatting and others play with avatar, simply.

This really doesn't seem to make sense to me in our context.

It's not about "preference". There is no choice involved.
He seems to lack imagination and empathy and is narrow minded,
circling within his own comfort zone.

Exactly my point... You can't... Because it's not possible.


Believe it or not your analogy about asking a mechanic how to repair some complex part of a car isn't a good one. I know quite a few mechanics and the basics are rather simple. This doesn't mean you should try to do it yourself because explaining something and doing it can be different.

Now some less than honest mechanics will smell a sucker and make things sound complicated to get more money.

"Well sir your engine oil augmentation system was malfunctioning. This caused your flux capacitor to burn out and we all know those aren't cheap. Also we topped off your turn signal fluid for you... Now let me get your bill" Maybe this is what you're referring to?

I love the new CC, but I don't think it is all CCP intended it to be. We know there are a number of features that are still unreleased.

For example, I'd really like to see the racial blending they demonstrated a few years back. Lore-wise you can explain away the apparent "purity" with the notion of clones using archetypes, but I'd still like to blend Jin-Mei and Khanid because it would be fun.

It doesn't seem to for you, because you're not rabid about it. Actually the vast majority aren't, and it's mostly harmless fun, with perhaps a request to either release existing stuff or continue tweaking at a moderate level. Which is fair. I preferred the older character creator in some ways too - the expressions were a lot better, these are really dull, and the backgrounds are boring. But a lot of us do have all our channels compressed ingame, so we only see avatars on the forums. IIshira's earlier remarks aren't that unreasonable - a lot of players are largely indifferent to avatar portraits (possibly because of these channel compression tools), and in addition only a tiny minority read the forums anyway.

There are a minority who are quite openly using avatar topics as a vehicle to keep banging on about WiS, which is a debate we can't afford to ignore. We're in a long term FiS development, which we had to fight tooth and nail for. Some of the existing gameplay mechanics are so out-of-date or imbalanced it's beyond a joke. Fair enough WiS has it's supporters but when the debate crosses into "WIS must be the focus of development NOW or EvE will die, because [whatever game] is due to come out [when they've scammed another few mill]" spirals into incoherent gibbering, some of us may well pop in and burst a few bubbles. It's not a personal attack, but it is part of a lengthy and controversial debate.

btw I'm just talking to Sibyyl here, not interested in arguing over this with anyone else so don't bother replying. Not derailing this into another FiS vs WiS thread either, just skip this and continue.

Not trying to shut down the debate or claim victory. We're all free to state our opinions and there are people who read but rarely comment. Putting a counterpoint up is useful for those who read but rarely post. Stating you're not prepared to engage in a lengthy back and forth isn't 'undemocratic', or even an attempt to get the last word in. By all means reply, I'll probably read it. Just don't expect me to respond - even to a direct quote. It's repetitive, and quite honestly I see it as more respectful to allow people to continue chatting without derailing things into a massive argument.