These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

CCP is thinking about removing the IGB

First post First post
Author
Pine Marten
Doomheim
#101 - 2014-07-09 15:26:32 UTC
They do not have enough people since laying off so many.

If they put some on the browser, a mini-patch will be pushed back 6 months.
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#102 - 2014-07-09 15:33:37 UTC
Nose' Feliciano wrote:
what is IGB?


Its that thing large black (or occasionally white) box that locks the game up for 10 seconds when you click a link in a chat channel.
Sarmatiko
#103 - 2014-07-09 15:38:50 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Really the only question and problem with moving from the IGB to CREST is the fact that you can browse the IGB from the client versus alt-tabbing. From our, or mine anyways, understanding most of you guys have multiple monitors and that's not an issue.


Is there any official statistic on multimonitor usage or where does this "most of you" come from?

From my experience, possible removal of IGB will **** up help channels pretty bad. Quick puush image for newbie, showing where "feature N" is located? Image with ponies? Mod link check? You have to ALT-Tab. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Long requested HTML5 YouTube support? Nah! Lets just remove IGB instead!
Lugia3
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#104 - 2014-07-09 15:47:54 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
Really the only question and problem with moving from the IGB to CREST is the fact that you can browse the IGB from the client versus alt-tabbing. From our, or mine anyways, understanding most of you guys have multiple monitors and that's not an issue. There are also other applications that will overlay your current web browser with the game. Things like Overwolf I think it's called. The benefits from us doing things through CREST and relying on you guys to use an existing browser are immense. We get to focus on making cool things instead of trying to maintain a customized browser in the client. Not sure you guys realize just how much work there is in maintaining something as complex as a browser and how much of a security problem for everyone this is.


Aaaaaaand nope!

Because everyone wants to copy-paste every reaction GIF from local into an external browser, taking precious time away by alt-tabbing and also losing window focus.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#105 - 2014-07-09 16:49:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
I have no idea what its for.

It never seems to work for me, and its really slow.

But I guess if it works for some people and its there, why remove it?

EDIT: NM, that was answered in the same Dev paragraph that suggested using out-of-game adaptations with my client (lol, not gonna happen)

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Nose' Feliciano
#106 - 2014-07-09 17:09:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Nose' Feliciano
wouldn't removing CQ be a better choice than IGB?

get you priorities straight CCP.

CQ is useless. IGB is useful.
RoAnnon
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#107 - 2014-07-09 17:21:40 UTC
KEEP the IGB!!

So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter.

Broadcast4Reps

Eve Vegas 2015 Pub Crawl Group 9

Houston EVE Meet

Carmen Electra
Dread Knights Holding
Dread Knights
#108 - 2014-07-09 17:30:03 UTC
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#109 - 2014-07-09 17:37:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Just get rid of "DUST", entirely, (not that SONY is doing so well these days) including it's limited and annoying overlap into this game -- and redirect some "human resources" to EVE and, in this case, any alleged issues with maintaining the IGB.

This (alleged? hypothetical?) "IGB" frenzy is not an issue, it's a symptom of the larger problem that is simply too few people are (again) spread too thinly across too many "projects".

Geeeee.... one might even say, hypothetically of course, just go ahead and sell the company, seeing as how recent downsizing might easily be construed, hypothetically of course, as the all too common restructuring tactic of making "the books" look more appealing to a potential white knight.

Hypothetically, of course. P

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#110 - 2014-07-09 17:41:44 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
To be fair, WH mapping is the ONLY use for the IGB.


We have a shitton of things that use the IGB, it is a vital tool for null sec alliances.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#111 - 2014-07-09 17:46:54 UTC
so after jukebox and ability to play all music (not just 5 repeating tracks if you live in one region) they are now removing IGB?.... wtf ?
TharOkha
0asis Group
#112 - 2014-07-09 17:48:14 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
To be fair, WH mapping is the ONLY use for the IGB.


We have a shitton of things that use the IGB, it is a vital tool for null sec alliances.



and not just that... what about all those funny gifs i have stored in my ingame notebook?
Moth Eisig
EvE-Scout Enclave
#113 - 2014-07-09 18:09:37 UTC
I will probably never use the IGB. ALT+Tab is easier and faster than fiddling with the min/max buttons in game, and the OOG browser actually works for everything. I don't even like using the IGB for mapping wormholes.

As far as situational awareness goes, I just put my overview/local/scanning windows on the right side of the client and snap my browser to the left side of the screen so when I'm using it I can still see everything important, so having two monitors isn't the only way to play and browse OOG at the same time.

But, does letting the IGB stay available actively hurt anything?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#114 - 2014-07-09 18:10:31 UTC
Don't remove it, add to it.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#115 - 2014-07-09 18:13:12 UTC
The IGB, broken as it is, is useful to players. Therefore - CCP says it has to go. Live with it or quit.
Xeator
soldiers.fi
#116 - 2014-07-09 18:17:00 UTC
Even if CREST replaces tools like wormhole mappers and what not, what will happen to gif and jpg links? You need to pop out of client to view them? :( Thats not good.

I would much rather have IGB with greater/better support, even if it takes more effort.

And yes, even though it might be "years away", its still getting removed? I dont like it.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#117 - 2014-07-09 18:18:09 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:


Anyways, nothing is happening anytime soon, when it does it will be because we, CCP and you the players and the CSM, have had a good long discussion about it, and only once something else is in place to replace it.




Like the CSM actually makes a difference in where CCP goes.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#118 - 2014-07-09 18:21:53 UTC
Help! Someone busted the brakes on this thing.

Should have come to a complete stop withing 3 posts of FoxFour's explanation. Then again, I think GD never had brakes installed in the first place.

Mr Epeen Cool
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#119 - 2014-07-09 19:16:53 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:

Just to be sure, you do realize the IGB is a version of chrome, right?

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword

KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#120 - 2014-07-09 20:01:42 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
Carmen Electra wrote:

Just to be sure, you do realize the IGB is a version of chrome, right?


OMG, they did that to Chrome??