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CCP is thinking about removing the IGB

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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#41 - 2014-07-09 02:02:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Tronic
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Jack Tronic wrote:
Apparently "issues" about the work maintaining the IGB


Implying CCP has actually done any work to maintain the IGB in the last several years in the first place. I always look for stuff relating to the IGB in patchnotes, and I've been disappointed for years.

Hell, isn't it still running on a ****** version of Chromium that's 3-4 years old?



Listen to the section in the podcast, CSM dude said it.

CCP uses a toolkit called Awesomium. Unforunately it seems when they implemented Awesomium it was 4-5 years ago and they stopped caring to update. Awesomium itself is a great library framework and is maintained and used in quite a few game products now.
But yes, the Awesomium they used is still at Chromium 2.0.

According to FoxFour, they heavily modified Awesomium to work with EVE, that is extremely terrifying in of itself because I have used Awesomium to project a web browser on textures in a 3d world without effort.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#42 - 2014-07-09 02:02:45 UTC
Kesper North wrote:
Don't remove the IGB - or if you do, make sure you're not removing useful functionality with it. The "radar" function of Dotlan alone justifies its existence.

You ought to speak to your 'boy' up above as he obviously has no idea.

I'm right behind you

Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-07-09 02:22:31 UTC
the IGB is critically important to our logistics division. please do not remove it without replacing it with something equally awesome

we have a tool that we open in the ingame browser that allows us to easily trigger the market to buy stuff for our members. without that functionality or something equally useful, i highly doubt we could keep up our jita buy service.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#44 - 2014-07-09 02:32:02 UTC
Here's a link to one of the tools threads where FoxFour talks about this as well.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4785544#post4785544

Not a bad idea to let them know there as well since it might catch the eye of more devs than our poor wormhole section of the forum.

I'm right behind you

VirusMD
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-07-09 02:42:08 UTC
Dont be so lazy CCP, The IGB has been neglected for years, we have been forced to build our infrastructure around a decaying corpse of a browser, now you want to take it away instead of fixing it? Prob your biggest fail since "walk in stations" or missing the threadnaught about the ESS wormhole problems... FIX MY IGB PLS!
Justin C4se
Bad Game Design
#46 - 2014-07-09 02:44:39 UTC
+1 for the wormhole people not wanting to lose their IGB

Fly safe,

Kaylin Drake
Profound Destiny
#47 - 2014-07-09 02:58:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaylin Drake
Just adding my name to the list. I really don't like CCP constantly removing things that others find great use for, such as the jukebox.. I still miss that. Please don't take out another great feature of this game.. don't remove IGB, if anything.. update it. Please leave it for those that do use it.
Kynric
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#48 - 2014-07-09 02:59:53 UTC
I use the IGB almost constantly. It would be greatly missed. I prefer to play the game in full screen mode.
NinjaTurtle
THIGH GUYS
#49 - 2014-07-09 03:08:42 UTC  |  Edited by: NinjaTurtle
The biggest question for me is what would happen to all the 3rd party applications that require the IGB's unique access and functionality to operate as intended. Siggy is one that comes to mind immediately, or tracking features on Dotlan as well. But yeah I'm against removing it.
Agrippa Hurt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-07-09 03:17:10 UTC
Inb4 six accounts deactivation
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
The Network.
#51 - 2014-07-09 03:18:12 UTC
Get rid of the IGB...for an in game browser that can actually load video.

Alek the Kidnapper, Hero of the CSM

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#52 - 2014-07-09 03:19:47 UTC
the only reason why gifs still exist is the eve IGB. Without IGB you commit genocide on a file format CCP.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#53 - 2014-07-09 04:38:44 UTC
Jack Tronic wrote:
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Jack Tronic wrote:
Apparently "issues" about the work maintaining the IGB


Implying CCP has actually done any work to maintain the IGB in the last several years in the first place. I always look for stuff relating to the IGB in patchnotes, and I've been disappointed for years.

Hell, isn't it still running on a ****** version of Chromium that's 3-4 years old?



Listen to the section in the podcast, CSM dude said it.

CCP uses a toolkit called Awesomium. Unforunately it seems when they implemented Awesomium it was 4-5 years ago and they stopped caring to update. Awesomium itself is a great library framework and is maintained and used in quite a few game products now.
But yes, the Awesomium they used is still at Chromium 2.0.

According to FoxFour, they heavily modified Awesomium to work with EVE, that is extremely terrifying in of itself because I have used Awesomium to project a web browser on textures in a 3d world without effort.


I'm not going to waste time listening to a podcast I had no prior reason to listen to in the first place, when you're going to post a confirmation that what I said is accurate for me.

Removing the IGB would be a colossally stupid move on CCP's part, and it's a bit disingenuous for CCP to make claims about the amount of effort involved in maintaining the damn thing when there's been barely any effort expended on maintaining it since it was redesigned in the first place. That would have been the time to remove the browser, for what it's worth: when they removed the REALLY bad one and replaced it with what we have now.

Right now the appropriate thing to do is to put some effort in and actually start maintaining it.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

Van Weyden
Mgla.
#54 - 2014-07-09 05:21:01 UTC
calaretu wrote:
Removing IGB would be very bad. Its a vital part of the daily life of everyone in wspace


+1

I use IGB everyday
Citrute
The High and Mighty
Carebear Abortion Clinic
#55 - 2014-07-09 05:47:34 UTC
AtomYcX
Perkone
Caldari State
#56 - 2014-07-09 06:03:18 UTC
Aebe Amraen wrote:
Checking in as another IGB user. This site is my IGB home page: http://www.ohi.se/eve/linkfit/

The database it uses seems to be slightly out-of-date, but it's still amazingly useful. So much easier than importing fit to a fitting tool, exporting to an EVE saved fit file, and then importing to EVE saved fittings.

Edit: I just noticed this is in the Wormholes forum. To be clear, I came here from twitter and have nothing to do with wspace these days (though I did live there for a few months, once upon a time). The IGB is not only useful for wormholers!


psst...that's what this is for http://puu.sh/a3gix/14f419aa66.png

Still requires the IGB of course but it's an automatically updating HTML file with searchable in-game links to all your Pyfa fits - I believe EFT has similar functionality too.
Austin K'Pfor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2014-07-09 06:07:21 UTC
PLEASE GOD NO I USE THIS IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN NEW EDEN
Winthorp
#58 - 2014-07-09 06:12:09 UTC
Austin K'Pfor wrote:
PLEASE GOD NO I USE THIS IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN NEW EDEN


And your capslock button it appears.
Agrippa Hurt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2014-07-09 06:24:26 UTC
Austin K'Pfor wrote:
PLEASE GOD NO I USE THIS IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN NEW EDEN



Roll
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#60 - 2014-07-09 06:33:06 UTC
Austin K'Pfor wrote:
PLEASE GOD NO I USE THIS IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN NEW EDEN

^

FUKUNG WILL LOSE SO MUCH TRAFFIC, CCP?!?!?! WHERE IS YOUR COMPASSION FOR SHITLERS EVERYWHERE?! WHY DO YOU WANT TO PROTECT LOCAL SO BAD?!?!

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