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Burn Huola

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Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#861 - 2014-07-23 01:07:56 UTC
Stalking Mantis wrote:
All smack aside.

Iron Oxide was always the Yin to our Yang. No other minmatar corporation could go tow to toe with Amarrian Vengeance aside from Iron Oxide.

So for what it's worth; GF IO.

While the feeling of distaste for some of it's members splurge in local is mutual, FW wouldn't be FW without a healthy dose of smack.

They have most of the veterans and both doctrines are similar.

EVE would never have been a challenge for AVNG without you.

P.S. Sorry about Arzad
P.S.S. I guess we are even now?
P.S.S.S. Are you recruiting? P

Arzad was a great fight and so was this. I appreciate the respect and it is, I assure you, very mutual. I hope your players who have had enough of EvE catch themselves some rays and as for those of you who are sticking around - we'll doubtless meet again o7
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#862 - 2014-07-23 01:13:25 UTC
Is burn Huola over?

Blasters for life

Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#863 - 2014-07-23 01:25:27 UTC
Phox Jorkarzul wrote:
Is burn Huola over?

No. Yes. Maybe.

Dirt 'n' Glitter is recruiting.
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#864 - 2014-07-23 01:26:40 UTC
Iron Oxide remain at Defcon 1 and will do for some time. FWeddit and WINMATAR have yet to officially stand down and there's always a chance this is the most complex ruse in history.

This time last night there was still heavy fighting in Huola. Things are quiet now but I'll believe they aren't coming back when Summer is over and no sooner.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#865 - 2014-07-23 04:51:58 UTC
GFGF guys, enjoyed that immensely.

/propoganda mode, smacktalk mode off.

THIS is what FW is, **** the forums, that fighting was inspiring **** and friend or foe it was a damn pleasure being on grid with everyone. Made new friends and pewed new people in the face. OP success.

Cya in the warzone o/
JAF Anders
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#866 - 2014-07-23 05:04:30 UTC
And let's be honest, with almost nine hundred posts and over seventeen thousand views...

...the struggle is real.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.

#867 - 2014-07-23 06:30:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Rahelis
Lori - you really fear AVNG. This alone shows what AVNG achieved in the warzone.

I assure you that I am not doing propaganda - but who knows for sure?

On smack talk - it is good fun to work your enemy into submission - but there are limits that smack talk should no cross (racism and sexist stuff) - despite having CCP forcing rules on smack talk.

Commando operations have a role in military ops, they are the first in and last out, but in attrition war numbers are the weapon that kills.

On the other hand infiltration was the weapon derived in the frist world war that broke trench warfare . . .
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#868 - 2014-07-23 06:33:17 UTC
AVNG, i seem to remember something about them. No, i was thinking about something else.
LOGOS Community
Lux Collective
#869 - 2014-07-23 06:55:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Luwc
The *nvm appereantly thats racist* have been freed.
The end of all slavery
Long live the United Freedom States of Huololo

#870 - 2014-07-23 06:56:42 UTC
Best stories have a bitter ends.

British doctrine for a frontal assualt requires 3 times the numbers the defender has and air superiority.

Clausewitz said that an attack can only succeed with the element of surprise. The russians implemented that in their current tank doctrine and do not even attack without surprise.

That is why Napoleon, for instance, only fought two siege ops in his career - he refused to wage siege warfare, knowing the high costs in mobility and reinforcments.

A siege can only work if you can cut the defenders reinforcments away.

The battle of Verdun in the first world war was an extreme example of the flaws of siege warfare, when both sides have the opportunity and the recources to reinforce.

Sun Zi said that prolonged wars ruins states and should be avoided alt all costs.
Local Is Primary
#871 - 2014-07-23 09:10:40 UTC
gf to all involved parties, it was a pleasure to fight this intensive battle. Cool
Merely Runaway
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#872 - 2014-07-23 10:10:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Merely Runaway
EVE Corporation 32568947
#873 - 2014-07-23 21:39:36 UTC
Rahelis wrote:
We came.
We saw.
We failed.

So my corp imploded in the huola campaign and the senior ppl of AVNG quit playing Eve. Interesting that not the enemy broke AVNG, but interal strife did break it.

Amarr corps implode. Total coincidence. Yup.....................................
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EVE Corporation 32568947
#874 - 2014-07-23 21:43:41 UTC
jjohnpaul xvii wrote:
GF for being formidable. Normally, I would agree with Pinky' sentiment - at a human level its sad to hear. However.... the deeply unhealthy concentration of pervasive vitriol exhuded by FAR too many members of this corp was a particularly repugnant stain on the warzone. Even benchmarked against the embarrassing levels of ignorance / stih-posting / racism / stupidity / poorly done RP permeating faction warfare (see this thread / entire section of forums for details) from ALL sides, these guys were right up there at the pinnacle of moron.

What goes around comes around - and if true - this just might be the best thing that happens to the more moderate members of the corp (and there are some).

I totally agree with this guy. Im glad he said it this way, cause if I said in the 'Murikan way it would have gotten deleted within an hour.
EVE Corporation 32568947
#875 - 2014-07-23 21:45:37 UTC
Dreaded Vengance wrote:
Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:
By whine, do you mean blow up?

Think we covered those losses more efficiently...

But didn't bother to spam it in local

EVE Corporation 32568947
#876 - 2014-07-23 21:47:26 UTC
Stalking Mantis wrote:
I wonder where XGal and company live these days. Maybe we should go flip their system. Something tells me the help they would get from the minnies would be half hearted at best.

Flip thier system like you flipped ours right? Man you guys are sad. BF. GTFO dont come back.
Brylan Grey
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#877 - 2014-07-24 01:52:26 UTC
As a pirate, I did not care about who owned Huola. I cared about my mission if creating an entry system that new players could come into safely from high sec to engage in pvp. So, my only argument is against high sec gate campers and industry gankers.

Amarr told my corp they would harass us, station camp us, hunt us, and do everything they could to evict us.

It then became a matter of an entire FW empire telling my corp it's over. We could not lay down and just die. We had to do something.

Then, members of Amarr FW stated we had to pay them to be a neutral party, even taunting us in local. This could not stand.

We brought it. And we won. Amarr FW leaders lost the war. Not through battle, but by uniting everyone against them.

Before this, Amarr FW could have offered me 100m isk and gotten my full loyalty, even no isk and a simple talk could have kept me neutral. After this, nothing under 5 trillion isk could be seriously considered.

Next time you invade a system, do your homework. Look who lives there and don't purposely offend everyone even remotely associated with the area.

Other than that, thanks for the KMs.
EVE Corporation 32568947
#878 - 2014-07-24 05:21:18 UTC
Stalking Mantis wrote:
It has been at 0% five times this week.

But don't worry, if you bring it to 0% it will all be over.

Well at least you were right about SOMETHING eh Mantis?


The reality disfunction
#879 - 2014-07-24 06:02:37 UTC
I can't read this thread and the effect on AVNG without smiling a little at the irony after the bashing we took when burn out shut us down.

The good news is that Eve is addictive and people get itchy trigger fingers after a few weeks in the real world.

No, you were not blobbed, you just didn't bring enough people to the fight!

George Gouillot
Pandemic Horde
#880 - 2014-07-24 07:03:00 UTC
Abannans Forum Alt wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Stalking Mantis wrote:
I wonder where XGal and company live these days. Maybe we should go flip their system. Something tells me the help they would get from the minnies would be half hearted at best.
We live in Fliet.

Confirming we live in Nisuwa

They live in Hallanen now. Come flip it!