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Burn Huola

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Terhiss
Anomalies Anonymous
#761 - 2014-07-19 01:40:33 UTC
Capitol One wrote:


How so?


you're the weird fat kids that no one wants to play with at recess. Any FW operation is preceded by "who's got eyes in Tama?".
Capitol One
The Congregation
No Handlebars.
#762 - 2014-07-19 03:10:18 UTC
Terhiss wrote:
Capitol One wrote:


How so?


you're the weird fat kids that no one wants to play with at recess. Any FW operation is preceded by "who's got eyes in Tama?".


I'm not fat :(

Also I guess you mean eyes in sujarento. But yeah...I see your point.

However just because Snuff Box is big and mean and scary, doesn't mean the militias don't have the ability to fight us and win if they really applied themselves. It's been done before, could happen again.
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#763 - 2014-07-19 03:37:58 UTC
Capitol One wrote:

However just because Snuff Box is big and mean and scary, doesn't mean the militias don't have the ability to fight us and win if they really applied themselves. It's been done before, could happen again.


Not really. Miltia isn't a corp or alliance where we can say, "Everyone come, there's a fleet going on, need T1 cruisers!"
You'd get a core of miltia regulars in the standard fleet fit, and then you'd get about 50% of your fleet in a hodgepodge mix of other frigates, destroyers, and random shield cruisers. Add in the fact that if you're on the other side of the WZ, and another 25% won't even show up to the fleet because they get enough action on their side of the WZ. And this is only shipping into T1 cruisers, imagine what happens when people ask for HAC's. Fleet comps don't exist militia wide. At most they exist alliance wide, but every militia is made up of varying alliances, each with their own fleets, FCs, doctrines, and idiosyncrasies.

Sure, you come bother us during one of our home system fights and we'll blob the crap out of you. Everybody's in one spot, ready to go, looking for a fight, and has ships. Any other time, we'll be split across the entire warzone, doing our own things, and letting everyone mind their own business.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#764 - 2014-07-19 03:38:37 UTC
The effort required to form up enough crap to take on organised large, high sp, upshipped alliances means that it'll only happen rarely. Mostly because unlike an alliance militias dont follow 1 agenda throughout the corps. In fact many corps are only allies due to purple.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
Villore Accords
#765 - 2014-07-19 04:25:55 UTC
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#766 - 2014-07-19 07:08:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Phox Jorkarzul
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
[quote=Capitol One]

Not really. Miltia isn't a corp or alliance where we can say, "Everyone come, there's a fleet going on, need T1 cruisers!"
You'd get a core of miltia regulars in the standard fleet fit,...


Are you saying that all the alliances and corps in the Gal Mil need to join one alliance? Cause if yes, I vote Perungra as CEO and Crosi as main FC, and JustK as the Supreme Court of all of it.

Blasters for life

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Josclyn Verreuil
Dark 0rder.
Inglorious Bustards
#767 - 2014-07-19 07:11:18 UTC
Phox Jorkarzul wrote:
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
[quote=Capitol One]

Not really. Miltia isn't a corp or alliance where we can say, "Everyone come, there's a fleet going on, need T1 cruisers!"
You'd get a core of miltia regulars in the standard fleet fit,...


Are you saying that all the alliances and corps in the Gal Mil need to join one alliance? Cause if yes, I vote Perungra has CEO and Crosi as main FC, and JustK as the Supreme Court of all of in.




Hahaha, that'd go well
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
#768 - 2014-07-19 07:15:17 UTC
Josclyn Verreuil wrote:
Phox Jorkarzul wrote:
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
[quote=Capitol One]

Not really. Miltia isn't a corp or alliance where we can say, "Everyone come, there's a fleet going on, need T1 cruisers!"
You'd get a core of miltia regulars in the standard fleet fit,...


Are you saying that all the alliances and corps in the Gal Mil need to join one alliance? Cause if yes, I vote Perungra has CEO and Crosi as main FC, and JustK as the Supreme Court of all of in.




Hahaha, that'd go well


How could it not....

Blasters for life

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Pinky Feldman
Perkone
Caldari State
#769 - 2014-07-19 08:58:36 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Capitol One wrote:
Anyway, it just seems to me there was more frequent "epic big stuff" that happened in faction war a few years back. Armor battleship brawls were pretty much a weekly thing between the various factions, sometimes with pirate third parties thrown in the mix. Nowadays it feels like there's either less High SP players or less FC's willing to do these kinds of things.
Yeah I miss 42/90 million isk Domis/Megas, and the 350 million isk PLEX too. Not to mention the 4k isk/lp wasn't bad either.


I miss the Pre-Retribution days of battlecruisers not actually being terrible and brawling them in mediums without any logi. Truly simpler times.
Veronica Isagar
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#770 - 2014-07-19 10:48:30 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
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George Gouillot
MASS
Pandemic Horde
#771 - 2014-07-19 11:13:54 UTC
Veronica Isagar wrote:
Loryanna wrote:
Are you taking another "break" in the hope that our friends go away, just like you did last weekend? I'm sorry is our Coalition getting in the way of your PVE? We know how much you love to orbit buttons undisturbed.

Taking this many breaks within ten days of a campaign isn't very good, is it? Many more breaks and it can't really be referred to as a campaign anymore. More like "stopping" or "a failure".

Bravado aside, I know you've not stopped yet. I know exactly what you're up to. Starve the coalition of killmails and the non-locals will go back to their homes leaving you with your beloved 3:1 advantage. Our allies have been told that this is not the end and are with us for the long haul. So sure, let Dane and Pockets get their beauty sleep - they're gonna need it.



Lory, you or Major drop a dime, and half of Gallmil will be here in 30 mins or less.


1 second - get a clone to Huola!
Capitol One
The Congregation
No Handlebars.
#772 - 2014-07-19 13:14:41 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:

Accurate state of affairs in the militia


Hey, not saying it is easy, but it can be done. You just need to force a change that people are willing to accept to take part in the cool ****. Lead by example and so on.

I mean, if I was in FW and there was a large group of people having amazing BS fights every week or so, you can be damn sure I would make it my mission to get accepted into those fleets by having the right ship and the right fit.

But maybe I'm just projecting my own experiences of fw that are outdated and no longer relevant to the militias...
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
Villore Accords
#773 - 2014-07-19 13:42:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Thanatos Marathon
Capitol One wrote:
But maybe I'm just projecting my own experiences of fw that are outdated and no longer revenant to the militias...
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#774 - 2014-07-19 14:18:10 UTC
So, how can we prove Burn Huola us over? I have not seen the system move above 25 percent for days, the system is not even in the top ten most violent systems. Do we have to wait for every Amarr corp CEO who signed the thread to come back and say "GF we surrender?" Feeling jealous that the attackers have definite victory conditions!
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#775 - 2014-07-19 14:29:47 UTC
That's down to you guys :) You probably just haven't worked out how yet.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#776 - 2014-07-19 14:37:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Capitol One wrote:
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:

Accurate state of affairs in the militia


Hey, not saying it is easy, but it can be done. You just need to force a change that people are willing to accept to take part in the cool ****. Lead by example and so on.

I mean, if I was in FW and there was a large group of people having amazing BS fights every week or so, you can be damn sure I would make it my mission to get accepted into those fleets by having the right ship and the right fit.

But maybe I'm just projecting my own experiences of fw that are outdated and no longer relevant to the militias...


I have far more fun in nano frigates than i ever did hitting f1-f7 in a bhaalgorn and periodically checking the targets cap.

Not just that, i can FW constantly, all day every day if i wish. Makes the game actually fun rather than waiting for some random intel 3 midpoints away that turns out to be nothing after blowing 3 bays of fuel getting there and back.

The type of higher end combat that you think is superior really has little merit unless defending structures that dont or barely benefit you personally is your main interest in eve.
Loryanna
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#777 - 2014-07-19 15:13:16 UTC
Any extended BS fight in our area tends to get a bunch of Supercaps on it if it lasts the length of time that some of our battles used to last, Cap 1. I loved that bit where a dozen or so caps with Bhaal support came in on a BS brawl, but the third party these days ain't looking for good fights - it's looking to decimate the field quickly before their pilots go back to playing Titanfall or WoT. Beyond this point lies the tidi world of megabatphones and all that jazz, which is just not really to Fe0 taste.

Coupled with the whole system occupancy thing, I don't think you can really do what we used to do anymore in FW. Cunning HAC gangs are kinda where it's at, but it's just not the same.

Those warp speed changes were too brutal. Nice idea but it's way too extreme imo; it's destroyed more options than it's created.
praying mantis01
Maori Battalion
Bully Brigade
#778 - 2014-07-19 15:20:05 UTC
Loryanna wrote:
Are you taking another "break" in the hope that our friends go away, just like you did last weekend? I'm sorry is our Coalition getting in the way of your PVE? We know how much you love to orbit buttons undisturbed.

Taking this many breaks within ten days of a campaign isn't very good, is it? Many more breaks and it can't really be referred to as a campaign anymore. More like "stopping" or "a failure".

Bravado aside, I know you've not stopped yet. I know exactly what you're up to. Starve the coalition of killmails and the non-locals will go back to their homes leaving you with your beloved 3:1 advantage. Our allies have been told that this is not the end and are with us for the long haul. So sure, let Dane and Pockets get their beauty sleep - they're gonna need it.

HAHHA LORY why you so mad?

how can you even talk about blobbing the numbers are in your favour and you need the gallente to hold your hand AND EVE STILL we can still fight you toe to toe into plexes to the point that you wont fight us in novices and smalls even when you have numbers advantage. I seen times when you held the plex and we came in with logi advantage on your side and STILL WON. Dont rest yet. I wouls however have gallente on speed dial as usual.

ps stop letting zen welp all your fleets he is horrible
Capitol One
The Congregation
No Handlebars.
#779 - 2014-07-19 15:38:50 UTC
praying mantis01 wrote:

Chestbeating stuff.


Hey if you're so elite why haven't you taken Huola yet? :)
praying mantis01
Maori Battalion
Bully Brigade
#780 - 2014-07-19 15:40:43 UTC
Capitol One wrote:
praying mantis01 wrote:

Chestbeating stuff.


Hey if you're so elite why haven't you taken Huola yet? :)



it wont be taken in a week