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[PYRE] Public Disclosures 5 JULY YC 116

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#41 - 2014-07-09 20:58:19 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:

Returning POWs to their home under well established laws is quite legal, Ms. Kim.

Only after the conflict is ended.
Otherwise, they simply will be drafted again and thrown at us. Maybe the Republic stuffs its ships with crew way more than other nations, but these peoples can run quite an army of ships, Ms. Starfire.

Ava Starfire wrote:

Going rogue and shooting at your countrymen in uniform is not.

Exactly.
And only a complete idiot would think I did it, so there is no reason to write it at me.

Ava Starfire wrote:

I do hope one day you stand before a proper military tribunal. We shall all see how much you truly value the norms and laws of your homeland, when the full weight of its wrath comes down upon you for treason.

Anytime, sweetheart.
Except I never committed a single treason, and only those, whose brains are either smaller than a pea or were brainwashed by gallenteans would think that I did.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#42 - 2014-07-09 21:28:11 UTC
*Sigh* I wish I had an ISK for every, "No, you!" argument and ad hominem Kimmy used. I'd be richer then all four of the Empires.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Vatim
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-07-13 12:56:15 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
One of the reasons I always dread making business with the State, or Caldari in general.

Can we get a tl;dr, for us people with better things to do than reading through all of that, sil vous plait?



I concur.

Make it so.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#44 - 2014-07-13 16:18:34 UTC
Vatim wrote:
Leopold Caine wrote:
One of the reasons I always dread making business with the State, or Caldari in general.

Can we get a tl;dr, for us people with better things to do than reading through all of that, sil vous plait?



I concur.


An "investor and industrialist" doesn't like to read corporate releases? You must be horrible at what you do.

Go invest in some picture books.

Katrina Oniseki

Vatim
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-07-13 17:13:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Vatim
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Vatim wrote:
Leopold Caine wrote:
One of the reasons I always dread making business with the State, or Caldari in general.

Can we get a tl;dr, for us people with better things to do than reading through all of that, sil vous plait?



I concur.


An "investor and industrialist" doesn't like to read corporate releases? You must be horrible at what you do.

Go invest in some picture books.


Perhaps I just might. Thanks for the sage wisdom.

Katrina, I see you're a 'Director of Public Relations' ... that's a joke right? You might want to find a new line of work.

That is all.

Make it so.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#46 - 2014-07-13 18:44:26 UTC
Vatim wrote:

Katrina, I see you're a 'Director of Public Relations' ... that's a joke right?


You know, sometimes I think it is. Other times I make sure it is, especially on the IGS!

Vatim wrote:
You might want to find a new line of work.


Why? People love me!

Katrina Oniseki

Vatim
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-07-13 18:47:33 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Vatim wrote:

Katrina, I see you're a 'Director of Public Relations' ... that's a joke right?


You know, sometimes I think it is. Other times I make sure it is, especially on the IGS!

Vatim wrote:
You might want to find a new line of work.


Why? People love me!


Fabulous!

Make it so.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#48 - 2014-07-13 18:49:22 UTC
People love her!

Additionally, Oniseki-Charantes-haani is compelled to walk the difficult line between engaging in social interactions as an independent capsuleer, and presenting the official face of the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive.

Given that lately our operations have been fairly routine and thus not worthy of releases, Oniseki-Charantes-haani has been more free to fraternize-- or, as the case may be, highlight how terrible some Gallente are at handling routine business operations.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Vatim
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-07-13 18:59:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Vatim
Makoto Priano wrote:
People love her!

Additionally, Oniseki-Charantes-haani is compelled to walk the difficult line between engaging in social interactions as an independent capsuleer, and presenting the official face of the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive.

Given that lately our operations have been fairly routine and thus not worthy of releases, Oniseki-Charantes-haani has been more free to fraternize-- or, as the case may be, highlight how terrible some Gallente are at handling routine business operations.


Makoto - thanks for such enlightening insight!

"...highlight how terrible some Gallente are at handling routine business operations."

Seeing how Katrina has no insight into my BizOps, I'm not sure how she or you for that matter, could reach a conclusion on any of my various business dealings.

Assumptions assumptions... so amateur.

Moving on.

Make it so.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-07-13 19:31:15 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
*Sigh* I wish I had an ISK for every, "No, you!" argument and ad hominem Kimmy used. I'd be richer then all four of the Empires.

If I give people crap, it is because they start it with crap.
And that you notice only my replies in that tone, means you are just another gallentean hypocrite.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#51 - 2014-07-13 19:44:21 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
*Sigh* I wish I had an ISK for every, "No, you!" argument and ad hominem Kimmy used. I'd be richer then all four of the Empires.

If I give people crap, it is because they start it with crap.
And that you notice only my replies in that tone, means you are just another gallentean hypocrite.

Every time you mention the Gallente you start crap in these fourms. If you could keep a civil tongue in that empty head of yours you wouldn't get half the flack you do. But you invite people to hate you, its your own fault.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#52 - 2014-07-13 19:53:08 UTC
Vatim wrote:

Makoto - thanks for such enlightening insight!

"...highlight how terrible some Gallente are at handling routine business operations."

Seeing how Katrina has no insight into my BizOps, I'm not sure how she or you for that matter, could reach a conclusion on any of my various business dealings.

Assumptions assumptions... so amateur.

Moving on.


No, sir; you do not get to escape quite that easily. It's a fun rhetorical technique, of course, but it's such a simple play that it can't be allowed to stand un-countered.

Let me clarify Oniseki-Charantes-haani's and my thinking. You are a new capsuleer of unknown capability, espousing the profession of industrialist and investor. Our comments aren't on your industrial capabilities, but instead your judgment as an investor.

You echoed a barb of a Gallente nationalist about this report being one of the reasons why he dreads business with the State, about having better things to do than read a press release.

As an investor, your business requires being ahead of the curve on business developments, and being able to discern patterns or possibilities before others see them. To that end, you must be not only an able reader of said press releases, you must be a skilled reader of them.

Unless you're saying that you ignore the State entirely for investment purposes, in which case you're letting ideology or whimsy come ahead of profit and sensible business decisions.

To wit: you must be horrible at what you do.

Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?

Vatim
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-07-13 20:27:02 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Vatim wrote:

Makoto - thanks for such enlightening insight!

"...highlight how terrible some Gallente are at handling routine business operations."

Seeing how Katrina has no insight into my BizOps, I'm not sure how she or you for that matter, could reach a conclusion on any of my various business dealings.

Assumptions assumptions... so amateur.

Moving on.


No, sir; you do not get to escape quite that easily. It's a fun rhetorical technique, of course, but it's such a simple play that it can't be allowed to stand un-countered.

Let me clarify Oniseki-Charantes-haani's and my thinking. You are a new capsuleer of unknown capability, espousing the profession of industrialist and investor. Our comments aren't on your industrial capabilities, but instead your judgment as an investor.

You echoed a barb of a Gallente nationalist about this report being one of the reasons why he dreads business with the State, about having better things to do than read a press release.

As an investor, your business requires being ahead of the curve on business developments, and being able to discern patterns or possibilities before others see them. To that end, you must be not only an able reader of said press releases, you must be a skilled reader of them.

Unless you're saying that you ignore the State entirely for investment purposes, in which case you're letting ideology or whimsy come ahead of profit and sensible business decisions.

To wit: you must be horrible at what you do.


{cackle}

I'm new? LOL hahahahhahaa

You are a funny one Makato. If you think I need to justify my investing/business prowess to you. You're more delusional than I thought.

Dear, if you performed your due diligence, you would clearly see I am not new to Eve. I've chosen to increase my participation in these forums, yes... but THAT does not make me new to Eve.

Yet again... assumptions.

Let's turn our attention BACK to the purpose of this thread. PYRE. What are your thoughts on this company's disclosures?

Make it so.

Vizage
Capital Allied Industrial Distribution
#54 - 2014-07-13 20:47:26 UTC
Vatim wrote:

Yet again... assumptions.

Let's turn our attention BACK to the purpose of this thread. PYRE. What are your thoughts on this company's disclosures?


Credit where it's due. At least he's trying to get out of the noose he just slipped around his own neck.

Quite honestly I'm amazed that a self espoused investor would lack the wherewithall to ignore his own public image and get into a mud flinging contest over what amounted to a "tap on the cheek" to start with.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#55 - 2014-07-13 20:49:07 UTC
You certainly behave like fresh meat and display the industrial/trade savvy of someone who's barely seen a market interface. Taking Director Priano and Oniseki-Charantes's words as you do heavily reinforce that impression. Not that I mind, as incompetent competition is nothing if not good for the bottom line.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#56 - 2014-07-13 21:07:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
I would love to say I intended to get this man to flail around aimlessly and show his true color, but I really didn't mean to at all. Nonetheless, I'm happy to help, Otsito-haani!

At any rate, the guppy asked I-RED a question. Time to put on my 'Super Official Business Hat' and answer, methinks!

Vatim wrote:
Let's turn our attention BACK to the purpose of this thread. PYRE. What are your thoughts on this company's disclosures?


The OP was little more than business as usual for them. There are one or two things of note, however, that I should probably address.

We are pleased to see Pyre Falcon taking a more active investment role in the lives and futures of their employees, and praise Article V of the announcement. We hope to see more announcements of this nature in the near future from Chief Executive H. Gesakaarin.

Article I is noted, and Ishuk-Raata has reciprocated with our own reset. As well, with changes made to the cooperative agreements between Pyre Falcon and the hostile organization True Slave Foundations [-TSF], Ishuk-Raata is willing to consider mutual negotiation once again.

Katrina Oniseki

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#57 - 2014-07-21 03:31:41 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:

Every time you mention the Gallente you start crap in these fourms. If you could keep a civil tongue in that empty head of yours you wouldn't get half the flack you do. But you invite people to hate you, its your own fault.

1. It was Gallente, who were attacking Caldari with their crap all over Caldari Prime before the war started.
2. Gallente already hate us and want to "Exterminate all Caldari", while I only point on their demerits and call to kill only those, who are actively fighting against the State (occupants, militia, navies...)
3. With head empty like yours, you shouldn't ever talk that about others, hun.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#58 - 2014-07-23 09:14:42 UTC
It's not my job nor responsibility anymore, but ILAW standings will supercede corporation standings.
I'm just saying, as I'm going to follow the little tags in the overview, and red's a 'let lose on the trigger, ask questions later' sort of colour. Been that way since before we even signed up, so don't look at me.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#59 - 2014-07-23 14:53:55 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
It's not my job nor responsibility anymore, but ILAW standings will supercede corporation standings.
I'm just saying, as I'm going to follow the little tags in the overview, and red's a 'let lose on the trigger, ask questions later' sort of colour. Been that way since before we even signed up, so don't look at me.


Don't ever change, sweetie.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2014-07-23 15:42:17 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
sweetie.


Pet names in public?