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Forest Camo In Space Is Dumb
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2014-07-03 18:35:56 UTC
Its not forest camo its kelp camo.

Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales.
stoicfaux
#22 - 2014-07-03 18:36:10 UTC
Xavier Liche wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Since the visuals don't matter, forest camo is no more or less dumb than any other, so you might as well paint the ship in whatever looks good or has some historical significance.


Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Big smile

You're British aren't you? Silly Redcoats.



Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#23 - 2014-07-03 18:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
EVE is a game, not some kind of "simulator". It doesn't have to make sense to you, it just has to be "cool".

We're talking about a game where one race is shooting 'lasers' and Tachyon Beams and another is using ARTILLERY and Autocannons lol. And this game has SHIELDS strong enough to protect a ship from above mentioned high powered directed energy weapons, but somehow not strong enough to protect the same ships from minmatar bullets....

A game where a ship with without a prop mod flys through space slower than a single engine airplane flys through the air in real life.

A game where human beings are immortal and can cross many light years in the blink of an eye, but those same immortal faster than light human beings have to dock in a station for a face to face with an Agent because the Scientists of New Eden never developed Cell Phone technology.

A game where ships can scan objects many many AU away, but somehow he scientists of New Eden don't know how to make those scanners repeat on their own like a 1938 Radar would so you have to spam a button (I almost wanna sue CCP for Carpal tunnel!).

I could go on and on and on, the bottom line is that expecting 'realism' in what is really a sci-fantasy game is the only thing that's dumb here.
stoicfaux
#24 - 2014-07-03 18:40:52 UTC
Also, the forest digi camo is useful. It makes maintenance issues more difficult to spot by a visual inspection of the ship by say, some anal retentive inspection officer who has nothing better to do than to gig you for minor infractions that are insignificant to the proper functioning of a warship.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
#25 - 2014-07-03 18:42:38 UTC
To each their own.

Liberty and individuality is my opinion. Smile
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2014-07-03 19:02:47 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Since the visuals don't matter, forest camo is no more or less dumb than any other, so you might as well paint the ship in whatever looks good or has some historical significance.


Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Big smile

You're British aren't you? Silly Redcoats.





Hey now, we invented camo uniforms. Hence our love for khakiBig smile
SFM Hobb3s
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-07-03 19:08:03 UTC
Just switch to multicam already pleeze.
stoicfaux
#28 - 2014-07-03 19:16:08 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Since the visuals don't matter, forest camo is no more or less dumb than any other, so you might as well paint the ship in whatever looks good or has some historical significance.


Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Big smile

You're British aren't you? Silly Redcoats.





Hey now, we invented camo uniforms. Hence our love for khakiBig smile

Transvestites have been around longer than the Brits.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#29 - 2014-07-03 19:33:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Intar Medris
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
No, the shoulder patch (in the US) is the unit identifier, esp right side because that is the combat unit you serve with.

BDUs are all the same.
…and yet they will let you identify the unit and as such can gain historical significance. MCCUU ≠ DCU ≠ ACU ≠ NWU ≠ etc (and that's just for the last decade and a single nation — add ODs to the list and you immediately introduce historical significance). Again, it's no different from any other marking in that regard.

Would you mind telling me what those abbreviated designations are tippa?
Genuinely interested here.
No need for gratuitous details now, just enough point me for my own research.


The US military has so many damn abbreviations it isn't funny. Hard to remember them all, and even harder to remember the full technical name that goes with them.

Ouch My Head

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
stoicfaux
#30 - 2014-07-03 19:42:13 UTC
Intar Medris wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
No, the shoulder patch (in the US) is the unit identifier, esp right side because that is the combat unit you serve with.

BDUs are all the same.
…and yet they will let you identify the unit and as such can gain historical significance. MCCUU ≠ DCU ≠ ACU ≠ NWU ≠ etc (and that's just for the last decade and a single nation — add ODs to the list and you immediately introduce historical significance). Again, it's no different from any other marking in that regard.

Would you mind telling me what those abbreviated designations are tippa?
Genuinely interested here.
No need for gratuitous details now, just enough point me for my own research.


The US military has so many damn abbreviations it isn't funny. Hard to remember them all, and even harder to remember the full technical name that goes with them.

Ouch My Head

http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/dod_dictionary/

However, MCCUU, DCU, and NWU weren't in there. /shrug

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#31 - 2014-07-03 20:29:13 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dazzle Camo is awesome

... and completely useless in warfare that doesn't use a human for guidance (i.e. computerized tracking).

Even though it worked back then, the military generals egos were bruised by dazzle (form over function), so it was abandoned.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#32 - 2014-07-03 20:47:02 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Its not forest camo its kelp camo.

Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales.


But what if its a Fed Navy Space Whale? Then how would you know if youre successfully hiding from something that you yourself cant see?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Solecist Project
#33 - 2014-07-03 21:17:57 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Big smile

Sure. It's as much a unit identifier as any other marking or colouration. All such identifiers can gain some kind of significance over time.
Isn't the point of camouflage to make it HARDER to identify something?
That's why it's called camouflage. To hide it / Make it hard to see and/or identify.

I scratch my head ... and wonder.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#34 - 2014-07-03 21:28:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Solecist Project wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Big smile

Sure. It's as much a unit identifier as any other marking or colouration. All such identifiers can gain some kind of significance over time.
Isn't the point of camouflage to make it HARDER to identify something?
That's why it's called camouflage. To hide it / Make it hard to see and/or identify.

I scratch my head ... and wonder.

The point of camouflage is to break up the figure of the object being camouflaged against the foreground and background. That doesn't mean that when you see the camo on display (as opposed to hidden in a ditch behind a bush), its pattern is distinctive enough to tell you something about its origins.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#35 - 2014-07-03 21:32:17 UTC
Camo ships are the kids who refuse to where a school uniform...school uniforms are bull**** anyways.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-07-03 21:35:00 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Humans have proven throughout history there always has been, and always will be, a market for frivolous items bought by frivolous people.

Says a dumbass playing a frivolous video game.

Oh hey, dumbass isn't censored. I'm going to leave it then, since it's clearly okay.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#37 - 2014-07-03 21:36:32 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Its not forest camo its kelp camo.

Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales.


I sense the Jaws theme heading towards this thread.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Solecist Project
#38 - 2014-07-03 21:41:15 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Xavier Liche wrote:
Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Big smile

Sure. It's as much a unit identifier as any other marking or colouration. All such identifiers can gain some kind of significance over time.
Isn't the point of camouflage to make it HARDER to identify something?
That's why it's called camouflage. To hide it / Make it hard to see and/or identify.

I scratch my head ... and wonder.

The point of camouflage is to break up the figure of the object being camouflaged against the foreground and background. That doesn't mean that when you see the camo on display (as opposed to hidden in a ditch behind a bush), its pattern is distinctive enough to tell you something about its origins.

Ahh I get it, thanks!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2014-07-03 21:48:24 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Sobaan Tali wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Its not forest camo its kelp camo.

Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales.


I sense the Jaws theme heading towards this thread.


Sharks are but a footnote compared to the terror of that blasted whale!
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#40 - 2014-07-03 21:51:06 UTC
Didn't you have Clown Camo in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater?

It being a video game is enough validation for me Lol