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How did regional accents originate?
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Nose' Feliciano
#1 - 2014-07-03 10:38:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Nose' Feliciano
How did regional accents originate?

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On the hot, humid streets of New Orleans, Louisiana, it's easy to pick out the locals with just one word: "'Nawlins". That's the name of their fair city, pronounced in the proper Bayou drawl. Far to the north, but equally striking to a visitor's ear, Boston natives can be heard ordering "clam chowdah" or giving someone directions to "Hahvad Yahd."

So what causes these distinctly different dialects?

"There are a number of reasons that dialect changes throughout America," says James Lantolf, Penn State professor of Spanish and linguistics and director of the Center for Language Acquisition. "First of all, the patterns of settlement when the area was first discovered and developed have a huge impact."

For instance, Lantolf points out, the regional dialect of New Orleans is largely attributable to the many different nationalities that developed the area. French, Irish, African American, Creole, Spanish and other European influences can all be heard within the Crescent City version of American English.

"A region's geographic location also has a direct influence on the development of a local tongue," Lantolf says. "Isolated areas, such as New Orleans, develop different dialects," he explains. "Where there is no contact between regions, entire words, languages and vernaculars can grow and evolve independently.

"Social standing and education also affect the vernacular of an individual person—and that extends to a particular area as well," Lantolf notes. "There is certainly a difference in the speech of the lower, middle and upper classes."

Lantolf points out that much of Pennsylvanian dialect "is a reflection of the influence of English and Irish settlers. Scranton has a particularly heavy Irish influence.

The pioneer settlers in Pennsylvania's anthracite region (which encompasses Scranton, Wilkes-Barre, Hazleton, and surrounding towns) were largely Irish and German Catholics who worked in the area's coal mines. Many Europeans—particularly Slavic and Italian immigrants—followed and contributed to the distinctive Coal Region culture and dialect.

The English spoken by their descendants is colored by their mother tongues: The word brogue itself (to describe an Irish accent) originally meant a "stout coarse shoe worn formerly in Ireland and the Scottish Highlands," and insultingly implied that the Irish spoke English so poorly, it sounded like they had a boot in their mouths.

The impact of Italian is heard in the regional tendency to elongate words—turning Acme supermarket into "Ack-a-me. And when locals replace the "th" sound in words with a "t" sound—"three" becoming "tree" or "cathedral" becoming "cateedral"—you're hearing the influence of Polish and other Slavic languages.

Pennsylvania's urban centers such as Pittsburgh and Philadelphia have their own vernacular. The word "yunz"—a kind of Northern "y'all,"—is quintessential Pittsburghese, whereas Philadelphians favor "yiz" to mean the same thing, a plural of "you" that doesn't exist in standard English. "These might seem like local slips of the tongue, but really they are the aspects of language that make dialects unique regionally." Lantolf says.

"It's interesting," he muses. "We call America the 'melting pot' because it eliminates the differences between individuals. But language—and its development—retaliates against that concept. Regional dialect separates people, to an extent. One region speaks this way, another region speaks that way; and the differences between the cultures that have influenced those regions become obvious in the language alone."


With the world getting smaller, I wonder if you will eventually have a global language in the distant future.

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Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-07-03 12:56:53 UTC
Nose' Feliciano wrote:
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With the world getting smaller, I wonder if you will eventually have a global language in the distant future.


Yes, of course: foreigner English, that is, the "English" which foreigners use to speak to each other. Like we do here. Lol

Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#3 - 2014-07-03 15:04:40 UTC
Oooh, yah 'dere. We talk a little funny in some places, don'tcha know?
Nose' Feliciano
#4 - 2014-07-03 16:41:53 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Oooh, yah 'dere. We talk a little funny in some places, don'tcha know?


I think we'll all just speak binary someday.


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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#5 - 2014-07-03 17:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ria Nieyli
Nose' Feliciano wrote:
01000101 01110101 01110010 01111001 01100100 01101001 01100001 00100000 01010110 01100101 01110011 01110000 01100001 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101110 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110011 00100000 01101110 01101001 01100011 01100101 00100000 01100010 01101111 01101111 01100010 01110011 00101110


I lol'd irl.

On topic, people's accents sound different due to the compounded factors of echolalia and limited communication between communities during the formup and developmental stages.

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#6 - 2014-07-05 14:37:50 UTC
Nose' Feliciano wrote:
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Oooh, yah 'dere. We talk a little funny in some places, don'tcha know?


I think we'll all just speak binary someday.


01000101 01110101 01110010 01111001 01100100 01101001 01100001 00100000 01010110 01100101 01110011 01110000 01100001 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101110 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110011 00100000 01101110 01101001 01100011 01100101 00100000 01100010 01101111 01101111 01100010 01110011 00101110


Shocked

i just went to the effort to find a binary translator and...lol. my response is. how would you know? Smile
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#7 - 2014-07-07 22:52:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Slade Trillgon
Stephen Pinker has a lot on the topic, but my books I could reference are in storage and I do not have internet at the new house so I can not really elaborate other than time and distance changes much.

Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Nose' Feliciano wrote:
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Oooh, yah 'dere. We talk a little funny in some places, don'tcha know?


I think we'll all just speak binary someday.


01000101 01110101 01110010 01111001 01100100 01101001 01100001 00100000 01010110 01100101 01110011 01110000 01100001 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101110 00100000 01101000 01100001 01110011 00100000 01101110 01101001 01100011 01100101 00100000 01100010 01101111 01101111 01100010 01110011 00101110


Shocked

i just went to the effort to find a binary translator and...lol. my response is. how would you know? Smile


Some of us have a very broad spectrum opinion of what constitutes nice, So I figure he is just assuming that you fall into his range Big smile
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#8 - 2014-07-08 14:50:26 UTC
I used to live in a little Pacific island state that was made up of four small islands. Together they had about 20 square miles of land area with about 7,000 people living on them. One island was separated from the other three by only about a 1/2 mile of water, but it was closed to outsiders. You didn't go there unless you owned land there, or had relatives there. But the people there had an accent/dialect that was distinct from the accent on the other three islands. They sort of formed their words inside their mouths, instead of with their lips. And words that ended in "-au" the pronounced as ending in "-eo."

Then, in the main group of three islands, there was a little area where people talked faster. Their accent was the same as everybody else's, but their speaking tempo was faster. So even with only 7,000 people living in a small land area, local accents develop. Kind of strange.

Maybe one person starts saying something one way, and it catches on like a meme. Like that thing with career women around New York, where they end a statement with a rising tone, as it if were a question. Or Valley Girl talk. If you hear it enough, you get an earworm and you have to make an effort not to copy it.