EVE General Discussion

There is a difference between RvB and RvB Ganked. RvB is the two highsec corps that fights each other. RvB ganked is a NPSI roam that happens roughly once a week and often includes alcohol and ganking everything they come across.

I agree with the rest of the post, but I'll just add to this point: you don't have to be a genius if you have patience. I haven't learned solo PvP with a lot of losses, but instead I've learned to move through systems, observe and analyze.

The first thing for me to do when I first started PvP in general, was to train for a ship that can use a covert ops cloak. What I did then for a month or two, was to sit in my recon ship and hit the lowsec. I was just traveling around, watching local, tracking activity in various areas and observing maps.

There were fights all around me... on gates, in belts or at stations. But I was patiently sitting cloaked 70km away from the action and was just zooming in on individual ships and watching them fight. I've seen good tactics, I've seen mistakes and situations that could have turned out completely different than they did if only some of the players in the fight did something different.

I was still learning, but without losing my ships and without adrenaline rush that could blind me from seeing what I was doing wrong. I have also learned how to keep track of local, how to safely warp to gates and how to see which areas I should avoid (more permanently or temporarily). I have learned to scout the area for a while before deciding to jump into action there - just visit the area for a couple of days in a cloaked ship and get to know the locals and the travelers: who they are, what corp they belong to, are they here for a long time, when do they usually play, how does their killboard look...

You can't fly solo if you are just planning to hit the first lowsec you see without knowing anything about it.

In the end, if you decide to play solo, remember:

You are a hunter.
A predator.
You should move like one and act like one.
Plan your approach as well as you plan your battle. Planning the approach will not be time consuming as you become more experienced.
You should know your prey well: when they are active, where are they active, how many of them you can expect....
Patience is the best virtue in EVE.

Almost anything is more fun when doing it not alone... True story.

I don't understand this post. There is plenty to find and kill. I think the real challenge of solo combat is most of the time doing your intel. You have to be on the ball. You see new people in a system that is rather empty, use google to find out whether the new player that warps around plex to plex has any solo kills himself. If he has none, then he is obvious bait. I got my ass kicked bad today by a kestrel bait because I got lazy and forgot to do my homework. It was kind of fun tho, the guy came in, I thought easy kill, as soon as I was webbed and scrammed I feared the worst, scan confirmed it, and a min later I had ECM, and another kestrel on me, and so it goes. On the good side, they will not be able to kill me again, at least I hope so because I took precautions to minimize that chance!

You gota be on the ball, because there are ways to avoid being ganked (most of the times at least), but that requires doing your homework and constantly do things, and you have to be fast with your fingers, have a fast internet connection and be able to master your keyboard !

Going to the theatre alone is not fun at all. Watching a movie at home, however, complete opposite.

In my honest opinion as a pvp noobie is that there is practically no incentive to solo pvp apart from the adrenaline rush and the occasional loot (Which itself can be rare since its solo and that valuable targets are often guarded).

Maybe because the word "solo" pvp (solo player versus player) often implies a fair game between two individuals and 2 characters only, which is quite improbable considering that even solo players have alts scouting or doing logi for them.
So, a player could think:
- Due to the fact that losing ships means losing them for good, the amount of theorycrafting one needs to be involved in in order to suvive solo or in any out-of-station activity whatsoever can be so much that eve ends up being a numbers game and that's not everybody's cherry.
- Player gets a shiny little ship after doing missions(which imo is the worst pve content i've seen in a game) and he wants to experience some pvp. His shiny frigate gets popped, insurance convers a little part of it, noobie gets thrown off. He sees that his time investment of a few days explodes in seconds. Decides to be a carebear or quit.
- Player feels that just flying up to a miner and ganking him, thus taking his ship from existence does not feel satisfying or gratifying. It feels more like a gank, an activity which is usually frowned upon in other mmos.

TLDR:
Players may avoid solo pvp because:
- Mistakes are too punishing.
- Game is too complicated.
- Killing unaware players feels like ganking to them

Personally, I don't play an MMO to "solo" anything (except a DED 10/10 'cause I'm greedy lol). I've been forced into Solo situations before (though until last week, never on this particular character before, I accidentally killed a Stratios with my Gila lol), won some, lost some.

I'm not trying to denigrate the great and skillful solo PVPrs in the game when I say this, but solo pvp doesn't excite me because i don't have a damn thing to prove to anyone in this video game lol. I see myself as a 'soldier' rather than a 'gladiator'.

Some people find it fun to know they are defeating (aka "are better than") another game player. I grew out of that phase when I was like 12 playing Karate Champ in the Mall Arcade. The fact that I suck at flying a space ship really has nothing to do with it, I suck at everything (according to current and past wives).

For me, it's like that with all pvp. I like to win/survive as much as the next guy, but I don't feel this burning need to undock and slaughter ships solo like many of my space-mates do. When I go on a corp or alliance roam or join a defense fleet, I'm more doing so to to help out my bros and to pay my 'space-dues" than I am to get epeen stroking killmails.

The only pvp I really like for the sake of liking it is Fleet Fights (aka 'blobbing') when it results in some kind of big tangible gain or memorable consequence. At the next fanfest I think i'm gonna get a Tat that is a picture of a monkey spamming "F1"

Years ago when I was in (the original) Atlas Alliance I participated in the "Battle of C-J" where we took that system from it's long time owners, Red Alliance. THAT was fun to me. I was also in several big battles in the DRF/NC war and such. I used to FC 100 man fleets in Faction Warfare and was present in Tama the 1st time Pandemic Legion dropped capital ships on everyone.

THAT kind of epic "pvp" is what I like, small scale stuff is, well, small scale.

I dont wanna start a fight but here it goes,

Those imaginary pixels you talk about trigger real emotions in the form of excitement, sadness, adrenaline rush to name a few, just like any hobby or activity.

These emotions along with the fact that playing pixels involve real life time investment to get from point A to point B in this game, make it more that enough to justify being a PVE carebear if thats what makes a person happy. To make it more clear, if a player feels nothing from losing a titan which takes tremendous dedication and time to achieve, then in all due respect that's an indication of sociopathic behavior. And no offence by saying this but the way you expressed your opinion as quoted above shows just that, combined with low self esteem and confidence.

Smart writing and advice.

I used to solo out of Mara. I pirated off the Piekura gate and tried to hit as much as i could purely for the lols. But by watching the guys that would sit in the top belt and pretend to rat, whilst they had a fleet of friends sitting in the next system, i soon learned who and what i could kill.

After a while i got braver and started to scout down the Hasama-Mushikegi pipe. Sometimes i could get a guy or two, but other times i got smashed. I will admit though that having a scout on the second screen saved my ass more than once through there. Whether i am still classed as a solo player according to a purist i neither know or care. That was solo enough to me.

Solo can be awesome fun as the achievement is yours alone. But i rather like the small gang stuff as you are sharing the highs and lows with others.

It comes down to "Why do anything solo when I can do it with friends"

Sure, burning around solo can be fun, but, burning around with a few friends on voice is more fun, plus then it is not just you overestimating the power of the rifter.....although, this increases the chance that someone is ss'ing, streaming, or recording it, or will otherwise remember it in future.....so, on 2nd thoughts, fly solo, the ooopses are all private then :)