Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So if you are in a station that is sieged and your cloen is there, then you cannot change your cloen to other one and are doomed to keep dieing and loosign skill points (because you cannot remake the clone after the station is taken).

Nope. There must be always a way to set your clone to at least 1 high sec or low sec system.

So what? There are places that are good to live and price of an apartment in such districts is high while in suburbs you can rent whole building for same price. Yes, regions must be different from each other not only by god damn type of NPCs spawning there. Some regions must be good because of their proximity to highsec routes, others must be good for for quality of products you can get there. For example Catch region is good for living because it's close to Empire border, while Period Basis is in the ass of New Eden, but CCP could balance that by giving that region something good like better mineral belts, better spawn rate of hidden belts or anomalies, greater bounty from NPCs or higher spawn rate of faction/officer NPCs, more moons. While handling logistics to that region will be pain in the ass, benefits that inhabitants will get from that region will be proportionally greater to Catch inhabitants.

As for geographical advantage from military point of view, I agree that there must be several entrances to each region. So if somebody will decide to invade he must first cut of all routes.

Idea is that every region will have all materials needed for construction needed to produce local T2 modules and ships.



Yes that is the point.
More variety , more styles of game play , more groups in the game .

Will be there super fortress ?
Yes , not because of the geographic location, but because of amount of players living there.
If they can hold those gates secure , then they deserve this part of space.

You cannot analyse each suggestion separately but all of them.

Regions will be still accessible from multiple locations, especially for the sub capital fleets.
Capitals and supers will be still ultimate weapons. But in order to move them into some region , you will be forced to make planed ops to escort them to those XL gates , and then allow them to move to desired regions.

Your attacker will have to move in to attacked region, not arrive from the other side of eve on the timer.
Ground control , escorting JF , industrial ships.
Incorporating Industry / mining guys to most of the alliances.
To limit the stuff you need to import.

Think about eve after those changes this way:
You will have current roaming / small gang mechanic without 90% of hotdrops, supers will not drop on cruisers in lowsec, and every one will be having plenty work, to keep their alliance running.

What is most important - you will have 1-2 constellation away similar entity, if it will be blue - that is your choice , not like now, mandatory stuff to keep sov , and have hundreds people in fleets.

If you can put hundreds people in fleets - you can control region, or two.
If you can put 100 people , few constellations.
if you put 50 people , a bit less , depending on region
25 people ? 1 -2 systems? Why not !

Subcaps have no artillery platform to deal with or handle Capitals or Supers. They need one.

I would modify the Heavy Interdictors and grant them the following.


1) Heavy Interdictors should get a siege engine weapon, capable of shooting Capitals, Supercaps, Structures, but not subcaps (aka no blap Heavy Interdictor). Damage comparable to a Moros when using the siege engine weapon. So yes a single heavy interdictor should be able to solo a dreadnought and possibly a carrier. A small group should be able to oblitherate a Super, but a heavy interdictor would not be able to deploy a siege engine and shoot a Cruiser, Battleship, interceptor, Iteron, etc.

2) Modify the Heavy interdictor to grant them resistance to Capitals and Supers Fighters and Fighter Bombers (decrease the sig of a Heavy Interdictor even farther when deploying a bubble).

So a small group can say something like. Bring the HIC, and the HIC pilot begins to obliterate the Capitals. It makes sense as the HIC currently has no actual role except to bubble and trap crap. It might as well become the Subcap artillery platform against Capitals and Supers (as it is pretty much one of the only ships that can tackle them).

I would do something like that to start. Currently the HIC's have no role except to bubble or infinite point then light cyno and wait.

You might as well make them the offensive powerhouse against all capitals. A subcap that can destroy Capitals.

So you are saying create mini dreads? Why then someone will use Dreads?
HICs will be cheaper.
Easier to transport ( so many of them on one carrier , and how many packaged on a JF), just drop one carrier so every
Resistances against Fighters , so i will just use OGRES from my carrier.
Sorry but this is bad idea.


The best weapon against capitals and supers is to limit their mobility especially between regions.
What will happen to NCPL supers, when CFC will bridge 500 hic against them?

Balance must be on both sides.

Bravo!
No more hypocrisy, in this thread we're discussing ways to please a few people from the alliance "Pandemic Legion".
We're brainstorming ideas to give contents to them.
To let them have some fun.

Do they deserve it?
Indeed, they do. They are dedicated players and loyal customers.
Do they deserve it more desperately than miners and mission runners?
I dont think so.
Seriously, how many FCs for mining fleets do you know? Are there FCs at all? Now grasp that feeling of frustration and imagine PVP were as engaging as mining. Dont get me wrong, mining is a fun activity to do time after time, but it severely lacks depth. Yet, a lot of people are doing that. And hell yes, they deserve a bit of attention of CCP developers.

Back to the topic.
I'm all for having a vibrant nullsec with many alliances suggesting different options for players of different styles.
But Manny. He has options already.
And he choose to sign a NIP with goonswarm and to form a sizable coallition to support this NIP. His choice is peace. And brotherhood. Why should we or CCP (or whoever) interfere and force him to change that choice?

And yet your alliance signed BOTLORD.

Personally, I think it's already much too late. If the rumours are true, Eve is hemorrhaging subs. It feels like a lot of peoples patience with CCP has finally run out.

Eve will not grow.
Look at it this way :
More systems = bigger infrastructure
bigger infrastructure = bigger costs
Bigger costs are acceptable , only when you get bigger income.

Eve is not gaining players , but loosing them.

capitals are too cheap nowadays ...
supercarriers should have its own skillbook which CCP have admitted ..
and there needs too be T2 versions ... so instead of 1 carrier does all at T1 level .. there should be T2 versions of each individual role .. with T1's becoming more basic

Hi all,

removing jump capability entirely probably is too much - but I agree that something should be done. I particularly endorse the idea of the destruction and hacking mechanic of stations.

I propose some other ideas that some of my corpmates and myself discussed:

- limit the number of souverenity a corporation can hold by the number of members of that corp. Suggestion is to use log(members)+1, i.e. 1 System for up to 9 members, 2 Systems for up to 99 etc. This will make huge holding corps as used by big alliances impossible. The Empire strikes back, by restricting sov awards. (Capsuleers are currently way to powerful, so CONCORD and the empires may devise such tactics to devide them)

- replace the static security status of a system by a system that is linked to player activity in the system. The more activity, the lower the security status will become (as pirates find out that there is something worth to plunder). This could be linked to an already existing mechanic of the industry and military status of a system. Effect: populated systems with high military and industry levels get the best anomalies as well, supporting more players than systems with lower populations. On the other side, neglected systems will loose security status with time. Everyone can make his haven everywhere and prosper, and regions deserted of populations literally become a desert.

- pirate factions (including drones) should - as capsuleers do - squabble over territory with other pirate factions. And it may be that one side wins - and whole regions change pirate inhabitants. Capsuleers should be able to interfere and help one side or the other - thus choosing their pirate faction. Such pirate wars should have NPC ships fielded comparable to incursions. And if the new pirate faction wins, they attack any sov structures present to make their victory complete. If systems are unpopulated or too weak to defend, they will loose their sov structures. This will most probably change the pirate faction territory immensely (as I expect Gueristas and Sanchas gain territory as I expect drones to loose territory). As an added gimmik, pirate factions that already lost much territory might get more ferocious, fielding larger or more dangerous fleets to conquer new turf.

Just some thoughts.

Shirolayyn