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20 mill fitting challenge l4 mission runners
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Locutus Mind
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-06-30 22:02:25 UTC
looking for best DPs at 100+ km preference will be given to l4 mission fits in amarr space.

no implants everything goes
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-06-30 22:48:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Antillie Sa'Kan
[Golem, Max Damage]

Thon's Modified Ballistic Control System
Thon's Modified Ballistic Control System
Thon's Modified Ballistic Control System
Thon's Modified Ballistic Control System

Large Micro Jump Drive
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger
Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger

Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Bastion Module I
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II


Salvage Drone I x5
'Integrated' Hobgoblin x5

Just over 1100 DPS and a 1400 DPS tank vs EM/Thermal rats. MJD for extra safety.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#3 - 2014-06-30 23:55:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Ireland VonVicious
Depending if it's real fit or like the guy aboves.

Either way use a RS

Put on T2 Cruise launchers.

Add 2 T2 drone range rigs. (( 100k drone range ))
2 Faction omni's with opt range script.

3 Faction BCU's
3 Faction DDA's.

Use T2 wardens. 99.1 opt with 70k falloff but can only shoot 100k.

You can put out 1443 DPS at 100k.

Fit the rest with tank/sebo//MJD as you see fit.

Use officer mods with the same lay out if you are counting BS dream fits.

Can I have my 20 million now?

(( Officer version puts out 1572 DPS at 100k with the way too expensive faction ammo it's 1613 DPS ))

Isk now nom nom nom.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#4 - 2014-07-01 00:25:18 UTC
So are we looking at cash or modules or fitted ships?

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
stoicfaux
#5 - 2014-07-01 02:07:43 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Paladin. Guns > missiles, especially at that range. Instant damage, no volley counting, TPs are in falloff, can split guns into two+ groups to kill frigates and minimize DPS loss to overkill, etc.

Pulse: 818 DPS, range: 99km + 21k with Scorch.
Tachyon: 970 DPS, range: 73km+51km with MF, or 562 with range 261km+51km ;-)
Drop a mobile depot and you can switch "instantly" between the two types of guns.

Tank: 73+% across the board resists, 25m+ of cap with tachyon, cap stable with pulse. The MARII provides 400 to 450 perma-tank in bastion mode.

Throw in a Warden II for grins and giggles (and range.)

[Paladin, Level 4 - Pulse2]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Heat Sink II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Bastion Module I

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation I
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation I

Warden II x1


[Paladin, Level 4 - Tachyon]
As above but with Tachyons with Faction MF ammo.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
stoicfaux
#6 - 2014-07-01 02:10:54 UTC
Rattlesnake only has a 93.75km targeting range. You'll probably want to drop a tank mod for sensor booster since you won't need much tank at 100+km.


Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#7 - 2014-07-01 12:29:14 UTC
The 20mil?
Does that refer to SPs, cash available for fittings or cash available for the whole kit and caboodle?

If it's the latter then I cannot think of any ship which would fit the bill, the cost of the hulls which can (consistantly) run L4 security missions is generally higher, even the Ishkur is a little more...
Unless it's a misstype (200mil perhaps?)

In the former cases the result will be either the standard Estamel fitting which usually answers these DPS threads or a T2 Paladin fitting...
Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-07-01 13:04:02 UTC
Locutus Mind wrote:
looking for best DPs at 100+ km preference will be given to l4 mission fits in amarr space.

no implants everything goes


Dominix

Fill mids with Omnis, rigs with Scopes, 3 DLAs in the highslots, lows with DDAs. Snipe with 100km Garde IIs for a cheap price.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#9 - 2014-07-01 15:13:18 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Locutus Mind wrote:
looking for best DPs at 100+ km preference will be given to l4 mission fits in amarr space.

no implants everything goes


Dominix

Fill mids with Omnis, rigs with Scopes, 3 DLAs in the highslots, lows with DDAs. Snipe with 100km Garde IIs for a cheap price.


Doesn't work anymore, the no stacking penalty on Gardes thing was a bug and they fixed it, now putting on scope rigs after having 3 Omnis is basically useless. You get like 2km from a scope chip with 3 Omnis w/ range scripts, so gardes are basically Maxed out at around 60km for Domi/Ishtar now.
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-07-01 18:26:40 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Locutus Mind wrote:
looking for best DPs at 100+ km preference will be given to l4 mission fits in amarr space.

no implants everything goes


Dominix

Fill mids with Omnis, rigs with Scopes, 3 DLAs in the highslots, lows with DDAs. Snipe with 100km Garde IIs for a cheap price.


Doesn't work anymore, the no stacking penalty on Gardes thing was a bug and they fixed it, now putting on scope rigs after having 3 Omnis is basically useless. You get like 2km from a scope chip with 3 Omnis w/ range scripts, so gardes are basically Maxed out at around 60km for Domi/Ishtar now.


This isnt exactly true, a proper domi fit will get around 60k optimal and another 30k falloff on gardes. (3 t2 range scripted omnis no scope)
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#11 - 2014-07-01 19:29:39 UTC
Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Locutus Mind wrote:
looking for best DPs at 100+ km preference will be given to l4 mission fits in amarr space.

no implants everything goes


Dominix

Fill mids with Omnis, rigs with Scopes, 3 DLAs in the highslots, lows with DDAs. Snipe with 100km Garde IIs for a cheap price.


Doesn't work anymore, the no stacking penalty on Gardes thing was a bug and they fixed it, now putting on scope rigs after having 3 Omnis is basically useless. You get like 2km from a scope chip with 3 Omnis w/ range scripts, so gardes are basically Maxed out at around 60km for Domi/Ishtar now.


This isnt exactly true, a proper domi fit will get around 60k optimal and another 30k falloff on gardes. (3 t2 range scripted omnis no scope)


Yeah I was talking about optimal, previously scope chips could get you 100km optimal on Gardes, now it's pretty much capped at 60km optimal. Even with falloff you're basically doing nothing at 100km, you have to bring other sentries to reliable hit to 100km.
Locutus Mind
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-07-02 21:27:08 UTC
rattlesnake is in the lead due to highest DPs output. contest will end this Sunday and a winner will be announced Monday.
Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-07-02 21:36:04 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:
Dato Koppla wrote:
Nolak Ataru wrote:
Locutus Mind wrote:
looking for best DPs at 100+ km preference will be given to l4 mission fits in amarr space.

no implants everything goes


Dominix

Fill mids with Omnis, rigs with Scopes, 3 DLAs in the highslots, lows with DDAs. Snipe with 100km Garde IIs for a cheap price.


Doesn't work anymore, the no stacking penalty on Gardes thing was a bug and they fixed it, now putting on scope rigs after having 3 Omnis is basically useless. You get like 2km from a scope chip with 3 Omnis w/ range scripts, so gardes are basically Maxed out at around 60km for Domi/Ishtar now.


This isnt exactly true, a proper domi fit will get around 60k optimal and another 30k falloff on gardes. (3 t2 range scripted omnis no scope)


Yeah I was talking about optimal, previously scope chips could get you 100km optimal on Gardes, now it's pretty much capped at 60km optimal. Even with falloff you're basically doing nothing at 100km, you have to bring other sentries to reliable hit to 100km.


Well that sucks ass.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-07-03 00:34:59 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
[Golem, Max Damage]

Thon's Modified Ballistic Control System
Thon's Modified Ballistic Control System
Thon's Modified Ballistic Control System
Thon's Modified Ballistic Control System

Large Micro Jump Drive
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger
Draclira's Modified Cap Recharger

Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Estamel's Modified Cruise Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Bastion Module I
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II


Salvage Drone I x5
'Integrated' Hobgoblin x5

Just over 1100 DPS and a 1400 DPS tank vs EM/Thermal rats. MJD for extra safety.


This is so funny!.... You'll need more than a MJD for safety.Twisted
Mason Drake
SGK Inc
#15 - 2014-07-03 01:23:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Mason Drake
[Paladin, PvE AB Tach]
Large Armor Repairer II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Signal Amplifier II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

Large Micro Jump Drive
100MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet L
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Ultraviolet L
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Bastion Module I


Hobgoblin II x5

For me:

IN UV 771 DPS @ 132km optimal
IN MF 996 DPS @ 75km optimal
Gleam 1009 DPS @ 38km optimal

Use whatever rigs float you boat. I use one like this except with an MWD so I can only use 1 tractor, but it sure hauls ass gate to gate.
stoicfaux
#16 - 2014-07-03 01:23:54 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Locutus Mind wrote:
rattlesnake is in the lead due to highest DPs output. contest will end this Sunday and a winner will be announced Monday.

Pffft, if that's your only qualification, then the Typhoon Fleet Issue beats the Rattlesnake.

edit: Duh. Forgot about drone control range. I've updated the fit to reach the required 100km. With 2.01 CPU to spare. If you are shooting at 100km, you don't need much, if any tank.

TFI: 1412 DPS (or 1455 w/o including reloading)
* 934 from Cruise (~105km optimal)
* 408 from Wardens (106km optimal)
* 70 DPS from 1400s (108km optimal with Tremor ammo, 1,296 alpha)

Rattlesnake: 1409 DPS (or 1443 w/o including reloading)
* 797 from cruise
* 612 from Wardens

Add officer fittings if you really want to go there.

[Typhoon Fleet Issue, New Setup 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Large Micro Jump Drive
Gistum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Optimal Range Script

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor L
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor L

Large Drone Control Range Augmentor II
Large Drone Control Range Augmentor II
Large Ionic Field Projector II

Warden II x5

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-07-03 01:30:48 UTC
The rattle is supposed to be using scourge or inferno missiles, dunno why your launcher DPS is so low, stoic. My rattle is 918 launcher DPS
stoicfaux
#18 - 2014-07-03 01:40:32 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
The rattle is supposed to be using scourge or inferno missiles, dunno why your launcher DPS is so low, stoic. My rattle is 918 launcher DPS

You're not including reload time and you're using 5% damage and 5% rof implants.

If we include implants, then the TFI pulls ahead a bit more due to the lack of drone damage implants. (1558 v 1530 with 5% missile implants.)

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#19 - 2014-07-03 01:57:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ireland VonVicious
I don't see room for the tank/EW to help make that fit actually viable.

You don't have rigs to get the wardens to shoot past 60k
Scope chip is not enough.
You need 2 T2 Control range augmentors and then 2 omni's in the mids or lose guns for drone control units.
Your ship will only have 1 slot for tank or EW and will not function well.

Currently you don't do that kind of DPS at that range with ingame mechanics.

If going by those standards you can fit a sentry damage mod on the RS and use the extra high for range instead of second control range rig and still have the distance and get 1460 DPS out of the snake. TFI is fail on comparison.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#20 - 2014-07-03 02:17:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Ireland VonVicious
Exact fit.

Sentry rig T1
Control range rig T1
EM shield rig T1


5x Cruise launchers T2
1 Black eagle drone link augmentor


2 Invulns T2 up to pith c
XL shield booster Best you can afford
Sebo
2 Faction drone omni's with range scripts
MJD

3 Faction BCU's
3 Faction DDA's

Wardens T2.


Using the faction augmentor allows for the T1 version of control range rig to still equall 100 even and add that em resit.

1460 DPS non-Complex/Officer fit.
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