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So what's keeping you from moving to Wormholes
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Dhaq
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-06-30 18:49:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Dhaq
There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space.

For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull.
Anslo
Scope Works
#2 - 2014-06-30 18:51:19 UTC
I'm a filthy casual.

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Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#3 - 2014-06-30 18:58:40 UTC
Logistics. Its a pain in the ass to live there. As far as day tripping - never seem to find anyone home.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-06-30 19:09:55 UTC
My understanding is that most of the PVP is hunter/prey, while I prefer the in-your-face fighting of Faction Warfare / lowsec in general.

Also, I can't fly T3s / T2 logi yet.

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#5 - 2014-06-30 19:13:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Dhaq wrote:
There's a pretty good discussion thread going on about why null does or doesn't interest them. So I'd like to start up one on the reasons you have for living, or not living, in W-space.

For me is the more dynamic nature of life there. Changing connections, no local, no stations. For me it just gives EVE a much different feeling, where High/Low/Null all feel stagnate and dull.


Wormholes are great. I've ventured into a few of them on occasion. One of the most memorable things I remember happening was how shortly after wormholes we introduced, my corp CEO at the time decided we should try to make some isk in one of them. We went into a C5 with a gang of remote repping Domis and were QUICKLY introduced to wormholes escalation mechanics lol. On second, phalanx of Domis, next second, Phalanx of Pods Big smile

From a PVE perspective they are fun but it's a lot of side work to do them solo and I haven't felt the urge to join a 'big' wormhole corp like the ones who live in c6s and such. I'm planning on going the full time wormhole route one day though (probably to coincide with when the last of our kids graduate from high school in 10 months, 3 weeks and 2 days.....not like I'm counting or anything).

EDII: also, I HATE scanning with probes even if it is way easier now than in the past.
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#6 - 2014-06-30 19:31:30 UTC
My main reason: Some 'holes just are not big enough, and (from what I understand it) inconsistent ore spawns.

If WH had say ice, and decent ore spawn similar to sov/null (in the case of WH's, the bigger the class the better the sites), then I would have zero problem looking to get in on the action.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-06-30 19:40:00 UTC
My love for megathrons does not mix well with wormholesStraight
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#8 - 2014-06-30 19:42:10 UTC
MicDeath Titan wrote:
My main reason: Some 'holes just are not big enough, and (from what I understand it) inconsistent ore spawns.

If WH had say ice, and decent ore spawn similar to sov/null (in the case of WH's, the bigger the class the better the sites), then I would have zero problem looking to get in on the action.

Sounds like you want a nice system with a somewhat upgraded (I'd say level 4 works) Mining upgraded IHUB. Maybe an ice belt, though the previous will let you mine ore forever.

You know, there are still systems open in the Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere, a growing nullsec presence, spanning several regions.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-06-30 19:45:43 UTC
I like visiting. But never found the inclination to stay there for long.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2014-06-30 19:52:36 UTC
Same thing as null for me, lack of consistent play time making any 'burnable' zone extremely difficult to live in.
Dave Stark
#11 - 2014-06-30 19:59:15 UTC
because the logistics of living there is too much effort.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-06-30 20:10:24 UTC
Timezone and PvP centric attitudes

For the former I seen to have issues finding one active in my TZ, for the latter, I have no issue with PvP, especially defensive PvP, but no matter where I go I'm not going to make it the core of my activities which seems to be what several WH corps/alliances want.
Qalix
Long Jump.
#13 - 2014-06-30 20:23:58 UTC
it's a gigantic pain in the ass
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#14 - 2014-06-30 20:33:11 UTC
When I was very young, maybe a week or two, I probed wh and entered it. On d-scan I saw few ships and I wanted them to know I have peaceful intentions so I said "Hi boys" on local. Ships disappeared from d-scan and I felt sad so I warped back to wh entrance. There was a ship already waiting for me apparently, bubbling wh and locking me the moment I landed. He managed to land gracing shot on my probe stripping my armor almost to none before I jumped back to hisec.

No wonder those people are hiding in holes, who would like to play with such rude individuals!

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#15 - 2014-06-30 20:47:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
Logistics. Its a pain in the ass to live there. As far as day tripping - never seem to find anyone home.

This is a main reason. You can't really take much of a break.

Also, there is a distinct lack of content for a well functioning corp over 10 active members. You can clear all the pve stuff pretty quickly and then you spend days waiting for new respawns. If you don't want to pvp 23/7 it can get boring quickly.

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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-06-30 20:47:21 UTC
I don't have the time to dedicate or worry about my own corp ganking me on alts

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Arec Bardwin
#17 - 2014-06-30 21:11:07 UTC
Laughable POS security options for corp members.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#18 - 2014-06-30 21:25:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Wormhole life is great. But it's certainly not for everyone. I've lived in higher class and lower class holes and also had a small alt corp living in Class 2 systems for some years that we've always shared with others. I've lost count of the amount of highsec corps with 'wormhole dreams' that've moved in and been unable to even handle a C2 WH and left within weeks/months. A lot of folks don't understand that you get out what you put in with WH life.

I love wormholes because:

  • No local - it gives a certain atmosphere that you cannot find anywhere else in eve. Never knowing who's there with you, watching you, or what kind of monsters may jump out from the closet and murder you at any given moment.
  • Like a box of chocolates - every day brings something new, with new connections, new neighbors, new dangers. It's a true frontier.
  • The money is good. Or at least so I'm told as I've never really farmed in WH space much. I just live there to murder folks.
  • Different mechanics, no station games, no gate camps (well sorta, holes still get camped sometimes) and entries/exits you can control yourself with mass.
  • A feeling of owning your very own system, even though it's technically not yours, carving out your very own legacy.
  • Privacy, peace (selectively) - Being able to keep Empire and all the HS/LS/Null politics and plebs at a comfortable arms' length, while also being somewhat invisible yourself and very difficult to find.
  • Idiots, there's less of them in WH space, although we do tend to have our own unique brand. Big smile

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Netan MalDoran
Hail To The King
The Silent Syndicate
#19 - 2014-06-30 21:48:29 UTC
Reasons I'm not in a WH:

I can't afford a POS (As I like to play mostly solo)
No ice for fuel
I can't pop a sleeper even with all launchers on my Drake on a single one before I pop What?

In the future I may consider a small corp there, but not in the near future.

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Marsha Mallow
#20 - 2014-06-30 22:04:23 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
  • The money is good. Or at least so I'm told as I've never really farmed in WH space much. I just live there to murder folks.
    • Tyberius remarked it's a bit too PVP-centric but I'd really only be interested in killing stuff too. Not all that keen on PVE farming for ISK generation, so there's probably a lot of content in them I'd ignore.

    I keep considering putting an alt in one just to try it out, but don't really have time atm as I've alts in various other places. The logistics sound a bit fiddly early on getting stuff in, but I'd imagine a decent group would help new members and it's not as though I don't have logistics alts. I wouldn't do it solo or in a tiny group as I can't be bothered monitoring a POS every day anymore.

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