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Dealing with bigger entities

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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#1 - 2014-06-30 13:52:28 UTC
So how does a smaller alliance deal bigger entities like EE and SYJ, for instance when we roam in small gang they 100% bridge a fleet and caps on us, and infact yesterday they were kind enough to drop 3 supers on our tier3 gang I'm wondering how could a smaller entity take on bigger cap entities without bat phoning and without sufficient caps ourselves some sort of guerrilla warfare? Pirate
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2014-06-30 13:53:35 UTC
Why would you roam where effectively the State Navy operates and not down in Somaliland?

That dont make no sense, dawg

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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#3 - 2014-06-30 13:56:44 UTC
Well I have a lot of new bros in alliance with not much skill so I take them out on small gang roams but we might have to head to fw rather than genesis and aridia for some fun fights where we stand a chance of winning/having fun
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-06-30 13:59:04 UTC
My uncle is kindofa a bigger entity, And holy shiart is he sensitive about that issue.

I just made one little joke. One tiny weeny itzy bitzy comment about his size, maybe two but for sure no more than three, and he won't even talk to me for 2 years now. Shocked

So when dealing with bigger entities, don't try to be funny unless you know what you're doing. Straight

Kinda sad, really. Why do people always make a fuss about somthing like that. Ugh

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-06-30 13:59:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
You're gonna have an even harder time in Aridia. That's LowSechnaya Sholupen territory, and they are much nastier than SYJ and EE. You should talk to SYJ about renting in Khanid, they have lots of room and a good deal, and offer full patronage (ie instead of dropping on you, they'll drop on the people harassing you).

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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#6 - 2014-06-30 14:13:13 UTC
Renting lowsec is a thing now? Lolol
Pine Marten
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-06-30 14:15:34 UTC
Renting is your answer now to anything that troubles you in low-sec/null. They call it renting but its actually just paying a bribe so you dont get your ass kicked lol
Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#8 - 2014-06-30 14:20:31 UTC
Yeah pass on renting we will become the Taliban of genesis exept without the religion
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#9 - 2014-06-30 14:23:46 UTC
Crazy Mineer wrote:
Yeah pass on renting we will become the Taliban of genesis exept without the religion


You can't have Genesis without;

1) Religion

OR

2) Peter Gabriel

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Mario Putzo
#10 - 2014-06-30 14:24:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Can't really combat them straight up if your size is limited. Best bet is to go mention to another big group that so and so like to drop big things and ask if they would be interested in dropping on a fleet like that sometime. Depending on your size that is about your only real combat option. Otherwise, get better at recognizing drops, and be prepared to dock up, best case scenario you take the fight and come out ahead in isk efficiency.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-06-30 14:28:12 UTC
Mostly intel, I guess.

You have to get to know the big guys, which systems they stage from, if they have bridging titans, if yes in which system, who are their neutral scouts/cyno alts, etc..

Yeah it's hard sometimes. Smile

Or try to fight in FW complexes. Mediums allow up to t2 cruisers (not t3) into the acceleration gate.

Larges don't have a gate, they allow any ship but it's still deadspace: no cynos, no warp-to on grid.

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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#12 - 2014-06-30 14:30:28 UTC
Yeah last fleet we had we decided **** it and went balls deep into there bait razu when he uncloaked and put up the cyno lost our entire moa fleet but we came out positive isk wise thank god for 20 mil ospreys :D
Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#13 - 2014-06-30 14:32:06 UTC
Yeah think we will roam fw space until the collective experience has risen in our fleets
Dalto Bane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-06-30 14:37:04 UTC
The enemy of your enemy is your friend.

Coordinate with other small alliances and corps for a counter offensive. Have HIC's and DPS on standby for the next drop. Gather intelligence prior to anything though. Once the escalation happens, you want to have more to bring than they are willing to bring. Good Luck!

Drops Mic
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-06-30 14:48:09 UTC
A useful trick is to watchlist the key people involved on dropping on your gangs (such as the Supers dropped on you, any bridging Titans you can identify, maybe FC's you know have led fleets against you), and you can then use this to know if these people are around and likely to cause you trouble (and in the case of the Supers, if you see them all log on simultaniously when your fleet is near by, will give you advance warning of imminent molestation!)
Diablo Ex
Nocturne Holdings
#16 - 2014-06-30 14:50:13 UTC
If your going to conduct "Guerrilla Warfare", the first thing you need to do is find & read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. This book contains all the info you need to strike out at your enemies. SuperCap Blobs have vulnerabilities.... exploit them!

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Crazy Mineer
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Dead Pixels Inc
#17 - 2014-06-30 15:07:15 UTC
Thanks for all the info I take it on board

o7
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2014-06-30 16:02:52 UTC
If in 0.0...Afk cloaking.
If low sek. Ring some bells...means shoot pocos...they will have a full mailbox.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-06-30 16:32:02 UTC
Diablo Ex wrote:
If your going to conduct "Guerrilla Warfare", the first thing you need to do is find & read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. This book contains all the info you need to strike out at your enemies. SuperCap Blobs have vulnerabilities.... exploit them!

i had a look and apparently you need to set ee's tents on fire, mineer

so, uh, go and find those tents. watch out for the chinese dudes on horses. with bows and arrows.
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#20 - 2014-06-30 16:43:33 UTC
I really wished this thread would stop baiting me... :/

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