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Carebears and EVE Online

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Solecist Project
#21 - 2014-06-27 16:32:12 UTC
Celise Katelo wrote:
I'm more like a "Butterfly" i attack like a "bumblebee" P

'Float like a butterfly sting like a bee - his hands can't hit what his eyes can't see.'
― Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay)

“The bee is domesticated but not tamed.”
― William Longgood


"Just like the butterfly, I too will awaken in my own time for some pvp"
― Celise Katelo


"I'm happy to bumblebee about, level 4 security missions for me, explore like a butterfly land like a bee, buy/sell stuff in different stations / locations for free. Anyone decides to fire at me, or choose to ninja ship wreck me, i tend to sting back rather hard like a bee. My sting does not kill me, i'm a butterfly not a bee, i like to be free"
― Celise Katelo

"Carebears just wanna be free like me, in the ocean of the sea & the galaxy of Eden we shall be free, shall the stars light our paths for some pvp. In the meadow of our minds, let us conjure such devine's."
― Celise Katelo

I find it rather telling that you put your own quotes into a line with a quote from Cassius Clay ...

... and they aren't even any good.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2014-06-27 16:34:55 UTC
Darth Terona wrote:
How else is isk generated in eve if not missions and bounties?




Those things do not make you a carebear.

Carebears are people who hate any kind of setback or challenge and will refuse to do anything for themselves and demand the removal of anything that will negatively impact them.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-06-27 16:35:47 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
my two man wardec corp has been called cowards even though we have hundreds of war targets at a single time. Just because we play in a way that maximizes our success, they think we're cowards while they only voluntarily engage us with 8+ guys.
I'd say it depends on your wardec corp's ISK efficiency. If it was over 90-95%, you were either very lucky, very awesome at PVP, or you weren't taking risks.

In that case I wouldn't call you cowards, but careful planners. Slightly carebear. Lol

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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#24 - 2014-06-27 16:40:40 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:

Still though, there are a few of these about, and their screeching is at least as bad as the carebears. We need a derogatory term for them other than l33t pvper, or basement dwelling neckbeard virgin. Pew-tard? Turbo-nerd?



I like pew-tard, but it's a lil derogatory. Turbo-nerd is pretty decent :P
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-06-27 16:45:40 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:

Still though, there are a few of these about, and their screeching is at least as bad as the carebears. We need a derogatory term for them other than l33t pvper, or basement dwelling neckbeard virgin. Pew-tard? Turbo-nerd?



I like pew-tard, but it's a lil derogatory. Turbo-nerd is pretty decent :P

THIS JUST IN! Nerd isn't derogatory anymore!

Lol

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-06-27 16:50:15 UTC
Here's a riddle, does pedobear 'care'?

F

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Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#27 - 2014-06-27 17:08:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
Aiyshimin wrote:
"Carebear" is not a virtual personality type or chosen play style, it's a medical term describing the condition resulting from terminal testosterone deficit.


Yes quite sad. Worse though is an affliction known as "nullbear syndrome" in which the afflicted produce so little testosterone that they can only 'pvp' against ships with weak defenses and a complete inability to return fire.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-06-27 17:42:56 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:
Aiyshimin wrote:
"Carebear" is not a virtual personality type or chosen play style, it's a medical term describing the condition resulting from terminal testosterone deficit.


Yes quite sad. Worse though is an affliction known as "nullbear syndrome" in which the afflicted produce so little testosterone that they can only 'pvp' against ships with weak defenses and a complete inability to return fire.

I thought nullbear syndrome prevented them from hitting any buttons except ctrl, f1 and left mouse?

EDIT: I love you null people! Don't blow me up too much!

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Marsha Mallow
#29 - 2014-06-27 17:51:01 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
I like pew-tard, but it's a lil derogatory. Turbo-nerd is pretty decent :P

Pew-Tard shamelessly stolen from the Dust forums just after fanfest. Inbetween beating the crap out of LogiBro they were ranting about the PC-Tards over here who were laughing at them.

Turbo-nerd is pretty much all Eve players tho. Might be a compliment to some. Eve Nerds = better than other nerds.

Remember I'm not talking about PVPers generally. Just those, you know the ones, everywhere has at least one. They play for 20 hours a day, probably don't wash and are usually in the top 100 on some kb. And have really annoying voices and sound about 12 (despite probably being older). All I can think of for these are ~~~~Lord. Battle-Muppets? Emo-monkeys?

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#30 - 2014-06-27 17:52:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
baltec1 wrote:
Darth Terona wrote:
How else is isk generated in eve if not missions and bounties?




Those things do not make you a carebear.

Carebears are people who hate any kind of setback or challenge and will refuse to do anything for themselves and demand the removal of anything that will negatively impact them.


Like the 'challenge' presented by pitting you and 10 of your buddies against some lone miner or the constant whiny buzz of 'nerf highsec' that bellows constantly from the blue doughnut because it 'negatively impacts' the blue doughnuts desire to blast defenseless ships in highsec.

I hear ya brother those people are such weak sauce players they definitely dont represent what EVE tough is all about and should probably go play WOW instead.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#31 - 2014-06-27 17:56:30 UTC
Carebears are anyone who PvEs. Carebears are not bad in their own. Many, and in fact most forms of care bearing are perfectly acceptable within the eve community. Having played other grindey mmos I have a natural distaste for players who try to turn Eve into WoW, so I dislike highsec miners and find highsec missions distasteful, but any player who does other things alongside this is fine by me. Lowsec bears are cool dudes. Wspacers at least take some risks. Its only the players who completely hide I dislike, although I take every opportunity to reform them that I can. I used to ninja and gank, but I've mostly moved out to lowsec, so I offer advice to bears who are trying to reform themselves into Evebears

This Space Intentionally Left Blank
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#32 - 2014-06-27 18:00:10 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
I like pew-tard, but it's a lil derogatory. Turbo-nerd is pretty decent :P

Pew-Tard shamelessly stolen from the Dust forums just after fanfest. Inbetween beating the crap out of LogiBro they were ranting about the PC-Tards over here who were laughing at them.

Turbo-nerd is pretty much all Eve players tho. Might be a compliment to some. Eve Nerds = better than other nerds.

Remember I'm not talking about PVPers generally. Just those, you know the ones, everywhere has at least one. They play for 20 hours a day, probably don't wash and are usually in the top 100 on some kb. And have really annoying voices and sound about 12 (despite probably being older). All I can think of for these are ~~~~Lord. Battle-Muppets? Emo-monkeys?



Turbo-Nerd sounds so cool it would be a shame to waste it on just one thing.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#33 - 2014-06-27 18:16:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Inxentas Ultramar
Two days ago a miner I'm friends with was linking me a bunch of frig and dessie kills, made with his lowsec mining barge fleet. This guy is the antithesis of a carebear miner, he will destroy the living daylights out of you, and end your futile attempts to kill any of his mining buddies in your shoddy gankship.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-06-27 18:22:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
The fact that someone, or several someones, wasted enough of their life thinking it was important enough to define the term "carebear", and then doing so ... is a very sad commentary all it's own.

As the legendary William Shatner is once alleged to have screamed at a fan during a Con : "Get out of your parent's basement and get a life ! "

Roll

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Qalix
Long Jump.
#35 - 2014-06-27 18:49:35 UTC
Carebear is a term used by those who are incapable of nuance, too blind to recognize the importance of non-pvp activity, and too cowardly to admit that everyone does it. It's the fundamental unit of troll-speak.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#36 - 2014-06-27 18:52:07 UTC
Carebear: Anyone who does everything they can to avoid ship-on-ship PvP and...
- proceeds to whine about being "forced" into such a situation (usually on the forums and/or to the developers)
- refuses to learn from the experience and adapt accordingly


So you can be an industrialist or miner or missiong runner... but not be a "carebear."

How did you Veterans start?
Komi Toran
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-06-27 18:55:27 UTC
A carebear is nothing more than someone who wants no player-driven conflict in the game; we should all be able to play the game in harmony with no one making any bad wrong fun at others expense. A carebear is not necessarily risk averse because a carebear is often willfully ignorant of risk by virtue of thinking such risk is illegitimate. Thus, carebears engage in such braindead behavior as autopiloting a fully loaded freighter to Jita durring a goon holiday.

Beyond that, it's basically an indescriminately lobbed insult against those who others believe are not PvPing in the "correct" manner.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2014-06-27 19:05:22 UTC
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:


Like the 'challenge' presented by pitting you and 10 of your buddies against some lone miner or the constant whiny buzz of 'nerf highsec' that bellows constantly from the blue doughnut because it 'negatively impacts' the blue doughnuts desire to blast defenseless ships in highsec.

I hear ya brother those people are such weak sauce players they definitely dont represent what EVE tough is all about and should probably go play WOW instead.


The above is an example of a bear.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#39 - 2014-06-27 19:06:10 UTC
Wow!
Such smack.
Much hurt.
So leaving.
Wow!
~Stop Shiba Bullying right now!

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-06-27 19:10:32 UTC
Personally, I think this discussion can only move forward with classification of the various carebear sub-species. This is not a complete list of course, so I welcome additions of any omissions...

Null-bear: Often seen roaming nullsec running sites in Isk-tars, running from combat with other players while denouncing pvp'ers in the forums from all other regions.

Petition-bear: Clogs the arteries of petition-flow to the GM's like Doritos and trans-fats in the bloodstream, filing pointless (or more aptly tear filled) petitions that are often in the genre of 'someone blew up my ship and I was in hisec'

Nerf-hisec-bear: (See Petition bear) Uses as his 'weapon of choice' the EvE-O forums instead of petitions, spouting heresies against holy HTFU by calling for nerfs to various forms of non-consensual buttsex..er..agression.

Fail-bear: Occasionally seen suiciding himself by CONCORDOKKEN, or by grabbing loot from jetcans or wrecks and not pre-aligning a warp out. Occasionally dies to belt rats.

Pedo-bear: Prefers to mine and mission run with younger unskilled toons.

AFK-Bear: Often seen AFK in an exhumer in an ice belt, being dry humped out of mining range by the holy operators of CODE

Sperg-bear: Rails in local about the UNHOLY CARNAGE HE AND HIS CORP OR FRIENDS WILL RAIN DOWN UPON YOU..rawr! Remains docked while doing so.

White-Knight-bear: Can be seen orbitting the gates in systems ganking is taking place in, pilling onto the demise of a suicide ganker already being taken down by CONCORD and patting himself on the back, while fapping in the 'Anti-ganking' chat channel with other White-Knight bears.

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