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So what's keeping you from moving to Null Sec
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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#261 - 2014-06-30 15:20:12 UTC
Rectile wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Rectile wrote:
been playing about a month and so far gate camps are the thing not preventing me from going to null sec or low but enough to deter me I have even made the decision to unsub
Bye!

Or try travelling through wormholes.


So i should gimp my fit to put a prob launcher ihavnt got the skills to fit? thanks for the redundant advice
No, actually you're right, you'll be much better off unsubbing. The rest of us will be better off when you unsub, too.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Rectile
Warped
#262 - 2014-06-30 15:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Rectile
No longer care
Rectile
Warped
#263 - 2014-06-30 15:22:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Rectile
No longer care
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#264 - 2014-06-30 15:29:28 UTC
Rectile wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Rectile wrote:
been playing about a month and so far gate camps are the thing not preventing me from going to null sec or low but enough to deter me I have even made the decision to unsub


Good. One less sebiestard to choke the clone tubes with

If you havent worked out how to get past a gate camp after a month, then the whole concept of cloaks and stabs is entirely lost on you.


But i dont want to put cloaks and stabs on my ships when im roaming and trying to find fights you fukin tard, and if you are going to speak to new players like this then i dont want to be part of this community


Hey all you "EVE needs new players NOW" types who been on these forums, congrats, here is what you've been asking for all these years!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#265 - 2014-06-30 15:55:44 UTC
Our new players aren't this bad. And we're in the CFC

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#266 - 2014-06-30 16:39:53 UTC
> Oh look! This ripe land of exploration, danger, and money. Come explore!
> Get's popped by three gatecamps in a row
> Escapes the gatecamp with a T2 frig.
> Popped at first relic site by pirates.

Who really thinks many people make it to the next phase of learning about wormholes/intel channels/corps without rage quitting first?




There's a very good reason why we have such low player retention rate. And it's the same reason why the people who stay love it so much.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#267 - 2014-06-30 16:44:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Rectile wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Rectile wrote:
been playing about a month and so far gate camps are the thing not preventing me from going to null sec or low but enough to deter me I have even made the decision to unsub


Good. One less sebiestard to choke the clone tubes with

If you havent worked out how to get past a gate camp after a month, then the whole concept of cloaks and stabs is entirely lost on you.


But i dont want to put cloaks and stabs on my ships when im roaming and trying to find fights you fukin tard, and if you are going to speak to new players like this then i dont want to be part of this community


Good get out

Its called a STATION or a MOBILE DEPOT you brain-in-backwards subhuman

YOU chose to be a sebiestor, live with the fact that the Exhalted Amarr NeoHumans hate you

Your grasp of lore is as weak as your grasp on life

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#268 - 2014-06-30 16:48:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Christina Project
This guy is such an obvious troll ...
... yet people bite.

I shake my head, cross my legs and grab for an EVE 120...

... lighting it up ...
... closing my eyes ...
... and inhaling deeply...........

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#269 - 2014-06-30 16:52:14 UTC
I have 2 million skill points, am only over a month old now, and frankly with such a lack of SP and Isk I tend to think I wouldn't last at all in even a fight against an asterbelt rat.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#270 - 2014-06-30 16:53:12 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
> Oh look! This ripe land of exploration, danger, and money. Come explore!
> Get's popped by three gatecamps in a row
> Escapes the gatecamp with a T2 frig.
> Popped at first relic site by pirates.

Who really thinks many people make it to the next phase of learning about wormholes/intel channels/corps without rage quitting first?




There's a very good reason why we have such low player retention rate. And it's the same reason why the people who stay love it so much.


You answered your own questions with the last sentence.

If people can't stand dying, getting podded, having to evade killers, they should be play EVE in the 1st place. A real EVE-minded player would look at those deaths not as bad things or even setbacks, but rather challenges to be faced and destroyed. Most gamers are the opposite of that,

The gaming industry is set up to make games that let people be the hero in-game that they can't be in real life. EVE's lore kind of suggests that, but EVE's game play tells players "you are nothing more than what you make yourself here @Sandbox.HTFU.com'.

That's why I like EVE and tend to despise "normal" games, the day I need a video game to make me feel good about my self is the day i talk a long walk off a short plank lol.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#271 - 2014-06-30 16:54:20 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I have 2 million skill points, am only over a month old now, and frankly with such a lack of SP and Isk I tend to think I wouldn't last at all in even a fight against an asterbelt rat.


You won't. The trick is to die, leran from it, die, learn from it, die learn from it and keep going till you're master of all EVE or CCP goes bankrupt next week. Twisted
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#272 - 2014-06-30 17:00:03 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I have 2 million skill points, am only over a month old now, and frankly with such a lack of SP and Isk I tend to think I wouldn't last at all in even a fight against an asterbelt rat.


The key is not to seek fights

But to avoid dying while putting your hand into as many blenders as possible

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#273 - 2014-06-30 17:00:26 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I have 2 million skill points, am only over a month old now, and frankly with such a lack of SP and Isk I tend to think I wouldn't last at all in even a fight against an asterbelt rat.


You won't. The trick is to die, leran from it, die, learn from it, die learn from it and keep going till you're master of all EVE or CCP goes bankrupt next week. Twisted



Your avatar looks like she wants to burn holes through my skull and mount my head on her hull. Anyway, already complying with this as I am in FW at the moment and I lose quite a few ships while leveling various skills which 'might' help me some more.
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#274 - 2014-06-30 17:04:35 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I have 2 million skill points, am only over a month old now, and frankly with such a lack of SP and Isk I tend to think I wouldn't last at all in even a fight against an asterbelt rat.


You won't. The trick is to die, leran from it, die, learn from it, die learn from it and keep going till you're master of all EVE or CCP goes bankrupt next week. Twisted


And to follow on from this, the best time to learn is when its cheap to do so. When you take up pvping, if you think it is painful to lose one of those free frigates you got from the tutorial missions, and your clone which is the cost of a couple of low-level missions, how painful do you think it is to lose a most-certainly-not-free Battlecruiser or Assault Frigate, and that much more expensive clone.

A few losses early on are fairly painless - if you wait (and I say this as somone who knows by bitter experience), the lessons are far more expensive, and you'll regret the time wasted.
Rutheford Audene
#275 - 2014-06-30 17:05:44 UTC
TL;DR: The quality of gameplay you experience is based largely upon corp. If you move to nullsec, don't play with shitbirds. They'll ruin it in a hurry.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#276 - 2014-06-30 17:08:48 UTC
Master Sunfang wrote:
Waiting for the renters to wise up, revolt en mass and burn it all to ash.


If they were willing to do that, they wouldn't be renting.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#277 - 2014-06-30 17:12:51 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Master Sunfang wrote:
Waiting for the renters to wise up, revolt en mass and burn it all to ash.


If they were willing to do that, they wouldn't be renting.


Though such an obvious conclusion, it still made me chuckled loudly. It's funny because..
Rutheford Audene
#278 - 2014-06-30 17:13:56 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
Master Sunfang wrote:
Waiting for the renters to wise up, revolt en mass and burn it all to ash.


If they were willing to do that, they wouldn't be renting.


Bu.. but... muh means of production?
Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
#279 - 2014-06-30 18:40:15 UTC
I've lived in null sec before for long periods of time. Moved back to high sec. I currently do everything in high or low security space.

The biggest obstacle to me from moving to null sec is...

1) Time. RL comes first.
2) Space hogs. They form up in herds and stampede with all kinds of snorting and slobbering. The droppings and smell are atrocious!
3) Lack of casual play. Being alert all the time is tiresome.
4) Waiting for fights... and waiting... and waiting... and waiting...
5) Lack of logistics.
6) Lack of available stations.
7) Unfriendly space hogs who can't hold a conversation and shoot at everything.

Now I log in, jump in a ship, and within minutes I'm shooting at some one. Long live RvB! Big smile
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#280 - 2014-06-30 19:22:52 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:
I have 2 million skill points, am only over a month old now, and frankly with such a lack of SP and Isk I tend to think I wouldn't last at all in even a fight against an asterbelt rat.


I have killed battleships with less SP while flying a hauler.