Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And you get a +1 from me. Circle of Like's.
I have learned on the forums that nerfs are needed everywhere, just not in anybodies particular playstyle.

Small gang is dying because of mechanics like this. Mobile Warp Disruptor's need to get redone along with the POS Code. Telling people to HTFU will not solve this issue as it can only become a larger problem as people see that it is effective. Changing the nature of the mechanics before is becomes a problem is a good solution.

Besides why would you want to shoot dozens of bubbles on the gate while your position is exposed and you're stuck, tactically that makes no sense and very few fc's will 'shoot' down bubbles while having a potential engagement with another fleet. On the other hand if there is no opposition, why would you waste your time shooting bubbles when you could just move on to something more fun.

Forever bubbles need to go, they're as antiquated as POS's. Adaptation has nothing to do with this, currently nullsec involves 3 types of pvp, Frigates (mostly interceptors 30-80 people), Covert hotdropping (10-30 people), or fleet warfare with bridging(100+ people). Every playstyle has a way to bypass or quickly move through hellcamps of bubbles.

There are many more styles of pvp in Eve and it saddens me to see us limit ourselves in Nullsec because we don't want to put a timer on Mobile Warp Disruptors. Stop trolling and provide a counter argument on why there shouldn't be a timer on bubbles, become engaged in the discussion and back up your statements with something of substance.

Skill up your reading comprehension before you post something on forum.



Try roaming null sec more often.

Still waiting for a discussion rather than claims, why should the bubbles not have a timer on them? I've presented my side, stop trolling and make your case.

Oh and my little part of null, is down the wormhole, and we have very little problems with bubble hell camps because entrances aren't static and the pvp is much better IMHO.

Really, when exactly did you present your side? I must have missed in somewhere between your whining that null ratters/miners have a way to keep you from dropping a fleet you say never happens in null on them, claiming bubbles are the problem, and your constant claims that anyone who disagrees with someone else is a troll. I've already presented my side that bubbles work as intended by giving example of how to get around them. You have yet to provide any reasons beyond 'I don't like this,' and calling me a troll while quoting comments not even directed at you. Your claims of OPness are moot since the counters to bubbles are already there. Your own decision not to follow them, all while crying for a nerf, simply places you in the same category as highsec miners/haulers crying for constant nerfs to ganking.

Um, because POS mechanics and sov mechanics are measured in days not hours and I might as well just have a couple of hicter pilots at that point? I mean hypothetically I "could" camp a POS with them, but anyone who has actually done it will tell you you're completely high to think that's an ok alternative.

Plus, anyone who actually anchors bubbles will tell you it's a PITA to lay them out properly, especially since you can destroy them rather easily with even less effort. Plus, that fuel requirement would mean the debilitating loss of a pilot that could otherwise be doing other more critical tasks in a smaller group environment like a wormhole.

Personally, I think you're knee jerking a little too hard over something that has been a relatively problem free mechanic for years.

Edit: Holly crap you edit your posts a lot.


I've been on many roams and even lead a few. While true I've never lead a glorious blobbing fleet, bubbles are far from the boogieman you make them out to be. Just because there's a hundred of them on a gate doesn't mean you can't a pop a few and come back later to pounce some people who don't know you made a hole in the bubble coverage. As I said before. Bubbles have been int he game for a very long time. There are methods for dealing with them and I'm hardly an authority on the tactics for doing so, but they're not a afkwinallsnooze button you make them out to be.



This bit makes no sense.



Now I know you're trolling.

Sure you can do it with one or two bubbles, and 60? 100?
Guess the only you saw in your eve life was 1 bubble per gate - we're jumping (thx to wh) across whole eve and 20 bubbles - large ones, is something we meet each few days, and - if we find one gate bubbled like this there's 90% chance all others gates, on few near systems - are bubbled in same way :)

Making rats pop them seems like a good idea; it would place a line between gate areas and other pockets of space like POS.

Bubbles have nothing to do with pos mechanics, or sov mechanics it was intended to be tool for pirate or tactic tools during fights.

If you are affraid of pos shooting your bubbles, try to remove guns first.

The only thing I would be in favor of is increasing the build cost of bubbles slightly, large bubbles especially.

That being said, if an alliance is willing to allow 200-300 million isk in bubbles to go poof undefended then I'm all for allowing them whatever marginal security that provides them from people like the OP who arent inventive enough to come up with a solution to that problem.