EVE General Discussion

Yup all the tears from all the people complaining that there is hardly any players left to pvp.
Followed by all the complaints about how null sec and low sec are dead and empty will be so great.

See for me I will just have more time to work on rl things than computer things. So I will not be here to see all the tears but you can bet your ass they will not come from the people quitting.

Why are there so many repeat subjects in GD? Have not plex prices come up enough?

thats the way it looks ;)

Here is why PLEX prices are rising: you have people like me who buy and sell PLEX as an investment. I buy them low, sell them high.

Here is how to stop the price of PLEX rising, it's a two-pronged strategy:

1. Don't sell your PLEX to buy orders
2. Don't buy PLEX from sell orders

There is also a third strategy which doesn't address the issue of the PLEX you buy being expensive: buy PLEX for real money, to sell in-game for ISK. At some point you have to acknowledge that you are spending far too much time each month grinding ISK to buy that PLEX. A long time ago, I could run missions flat-chat for one weekend a month (or three nights a month) to earn the ISK needed to pay my account subscriptions (back in the day, 90 days of game time was about 180M ISK or so from memory). Eventually it got to the point where I was "playing" the game for an hour or two every night just to break even.

So take a break from the hand-to-mouth lifestyle, pay the subscription fees for a year, and set out to establish a PLEX fund of your own. If you convert your capital to PLEX and then trade PLEX, it doesn't matter whether PLEX prices rise or fall, all you care about is the difference between the price you can sell your PLEX for now, and the price you can buy a new one. The surplus in that transaction remains as ISK until you have enough ISK to buy another PLEX.

If CCP wanted to curb the use of PLEX as an investment currency they could (for example) implement a new tax that is specific to PLEX, equivalent to the 0.01% taxes suggested for stock markets in order to curb the insanity of high frequency trading. Since any decently prepared trader can flip PLEX at a profit on margins of around 1%, a PLEX-specific tax would have to be in the order of low single-digit percentages.

Another option for discouraging (or "dis-incentivising") PLEX trading would be for CCP to implement a "holding period" where a PLEX doesn't become available to the buy-order bidder for several days after it is bought. Though one might, for example, be able to redeem a PLEX while it is still in NPC escrow (but you won't be able to reverse-redeem the PLEX until it is delivered to your hangar).

But that is just stream-of-conscioussness blathering. CCP obviously doesn't believe there is a problem with PLEX prices.

The error margin (about 25%) on a sample size of 15 is almost bigger than the sample set ;)

You assume that 700m / month isn't a trivial amount to many people.

That assumption is incorrect.

except this was not asking if you would cancel this is asking if you did cancel.

So seeing as we have 33 cancels over the plex you could safely assume that the real number is much much larger. And you could also safely assume that number will continue to increase the closer plex gets to 1B.

Small sample size 33 canceled accounts, Pretty scary to think what the real numbers are. Remember for every account canceled that is $20 USD out of ccp bank and for everyone who converts from plex to monthly is $5 USD.

It is never a good thing for a company to show loses CCP did not lay off devs because they are rolling in the money. They are losing money some where and a lot of it. Hence the over 100+ lay offs. And who did not see this coming? How many CCP's left for other companies? It helps noone to sit and calm everything is fine. Every dollar out of CCPs bank has a negative effect.

And seeing that CCP being a smaller company I would assume they depend on investor funding I could be wrong here but if that is the case it is only a matter of time before CCP needs to do something to start making money again.
I mean after all you can only lay off so many people once you are at a skeleton crew then where do you make up for the losses?

I would love to see CCP P&L reports over the last 3 years.

So let me get this straight, you are introducing PLEX to the game and somehow you have convinced yourself that you are increasing PLEX prices.

These forums never fail to deliver.

Edit - Actually after a reread I think I have been trolled 8/10.

No, the sample size is pathetic. I'll be more interested in the results if it hits 1000 minimum, and that's being generous.

For some, half an hour everyday or so, and three or four hours a week one plex makes ...