EVE New Citizens Q&A

I would stick to T1 frigates and try out different styles of play with them. They will give you a good overview of the different types of ship set ups you can have in EvE. You can experiment with all of these on the cheap. Also, if I recall platinum insurance covers the entire cost of a T1 frigate hull. So if it goes boom, you get all your ISK back. Some different recommendations below.

Skills:
Getting all the various support skills to 4 does not take much time but will help you out a LOT. Consider focusing on getting them all to four and then getting the ones you want to focus on to 5.

Ships:
Some ships I would try as a new player.
- Rocket Breacher (With Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Need Size 50 Cap Charges for the MASB)
- Blaster Merlin
- Railgun Merlin
- Missile Kestrel
- Drone Tristan
- Blaster Atron
- Autocannon Rifter

EFT:
Look into a program called EFT. You can download it, just google it. Its a third party tool that lets you test out fits offline. You can even set the skill level of your character ensuring the fit works for your specific situation. It is a HUGE way to save ISK as you build ships. Make sure you have the most up to date one, as it is updated every time CCP tweaks the ships (CCP is ensuring all ships are balanced). Just remember, the damage you see on EFT may not be the damage you see in reality. Its going to give you the damage you put out if everything is optimal. It doesnt take into account things like tracking, etc. As such, try out the different styles with the T1 frigates to figure out which one you like best. Pretty much everything is a trade off one way or another.

Group:
As you noticed there is a TON to learn. Highly recommend joining a group. EvE with a group is so much more fun than EvE alone. Consider EvE University for structured learning (formal classes, etc). Brave Newbies for null sec learning (you will be fine as a new pilot, they are great at taking newbies and teaching them PvP). Red vs Blue for lots of things getting blown up (created to be at war with each other).

Obviously you did NOT read the OP, or never heard of reading what the actual question is.
As you decided to write a wall of text which has south of nill to do with anything the OP asks.





OP:

If you are still on trial, you are locked out of Industrial ships (which are great for PI - especially the Epithal which has a special hold for PI items).

Edit: Just keep in mind that you will need another industrial other then the Epithal to transport the command centers to the planet the first time (see an option for that below). Also, the base stats of the Nereus (I believe you get one of those for free in the tutorial IIRC) can hold 2 command centers.

But as a trial you can't fly those and then the next best thing will be the Primae which was a gift ship when PI came out.

As for skills:

There aren't many skills related to PI and they are all in the Planet Management category.

You people really need to just concentrate on addressing the OP's questions and stop posting smug sarcastic remarks directed towards other players who post info.

Ethikos actually answered the second part of the OP's questions while both of you just focused on the first part.. All the info was good with sound advice which pertained to the game anyway, regardless if you deemed it appropriate or not..



The best advice is this :





DMC

Sorry, but I don't see a "second part". OP expressed an intention to do some PI and asked for advice about "skills and ships that would be useful". No mention of any activity other than PI.
[Edit deleted in the light of Ky's post below.]

Again with the smug sarcastic remarks. I'll get off the high-horse when you get off the smart-ass.

I understand the main topic was about PI but any and all info is relevant and useful to a 2 day old player.

In answer to your questions the OP posted this 2nd part which doesn't exactly specify whether it's strictly for PI or just for overall game play -

Guess you missed that part.



Guess you also missed the part where the OP stated - There is so much to learn so any advice is welcome.

Anyway, whether the info was on topic or not doesn't give the right to do personal attacks.


DMC

Get all planet management skills up to L3.
This will force you to train a basic skill to L5 to open up the one advanced skill.

Get industrail ship soon as you can.

Stay out of security that is lower than 0.5.
If you do not, expect to be killed and most likely podded.

Train trade skills up after you got your planet management done.
Saves on tax and helps you trade remotely.

Use a search engine and get to reading. Lots of stuff avalible to help you choose what to harvest and build.

Actually since it's a 2 day old player, my advice would have been to complete the Tutorial, then complete the 5 different Career Agents and then do the level 1 Sisters Of Eve Epic Arc while training up Core Fitting Skills which would allow ample time to decide on which career to pursue.

Anyway, now the thread is getting off topic and probably will soon be derailed - all due to sarcastic remarks being posted initially.



DMC

So OP, what are you interested in doing in game? PI is nice for some passive income, but it's play value isn't enough to sustain anyone on it's own (as far as I know).

What else have you got your eye on? Combat? Mining? Industry? Trading? Scamming? Pirating? Mining? Exploration?

If you aren't sure yet, as DMC suggested, do ALL the career agent missions as they introduce you to different areas of play. Once you've developed some interests, we can help you better as far as tips and skills.

Nope. OP asked for specific advice about PI.

Didn't see any mention of the very important skill Custom Code Expertise if you want to roll PI in High-sec. Also, not need to be scared shitless going into low-sec, just make sure you've done your homework - and if you got friends ask them to scout you.

Best tip I can give you, check your market - look which PI goods seem to have a decent amount of sales. Things that are used to make POS fuel is commonly good to start out doing. You could get coolants going or maybe mechanical parts - most likely won't make you spacerich but it's a start.

To make a more decent buck, you might want to look into creating factory planets. Meaning you don't build any extractors there, just get a launchpad and some factories, set it running more high-end jobs you're confident will turn a profit. You'll be importing lower tier PI goods and refining it so make sure you got your math right, my first run gave me a net loss of 15 million.

Also, don't be afraid to contact POCO owners and see if they'd be interested in giving you good standings (also giving you better taxes). An active factory planet will land the owner almost as much ISK as an active missioner if not more.

If you don't feel comfy trying to get a spreadsheet up and running there are still plenty of tools available for you to guestimate profits. I mostly use https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/pi/

Best of luck and for the love of god don't fill your untanked Epithal to the brim with the highest end PI goods, try and move your products securely. (Check hauling guides.)