Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I also think that the Blops needs a rebalance, but the main problem currently does not lie with the ship itself, but with the ability of warping in enemies unnoticed and unstoppable, kill a target and then warp out again before anyone can react. Just to give you an idea of things that can happen with Blops: we recently lost a Golem to a Blops gang. They had a neut sitting in our system for a while already, he opened a cyno while the Golem was busy doing a site, dropped a Redeemer and a Sin on it, bursted it away with high DPS + cap drain within less than 30 seconds and vanished back to where they came from before the first defense ships came out of warp about 2 minutes after the cyno was detected.

The problem here is not that the Blops is too strong, in fact I consider the effectiveness vs price rating on that ship to be way too low, but the ability to insta-gank anyone within jump range AND jump back out before anyone can react is what needs to be addressed and nerfed first or any boost to the Blops is going to become a huge problem. A few things I'd like to see to improve both the Blops and the hot-drop-issue:

- Lower the construction price of the Black Ops significantly. After all it is a pure PvP ship, which is weaker than any BS out there but costs 5 times as much.

- Give Black Ops the ability to covert-jump to any gate in range, so this becomes a ship that can be used outside gangs as well. Maybe with a delay high enough that this isn't that useful as a PvP escape method.

- Add a delay between decloaking (of any ship) until a cyno can be opened (I feel about 10 seconds should be fine). This is supposed to give the target at least a chance to escape or kill the cyno pilot in time. No more throw-away cyno alts that you can't do **** about please.

Other than that, some minor performance tweaks of those Blops should do it. I don't think they are overly out of line, just too expensive.

Yeah, I haven't I just wanted to trigger a discussion- I mean, look at what they did to marauders- if they do something along the lines of that for blops, then that'd be sweet( I mean, people used marauders before they changed-, and now they've been made really awesome and special). If not, making them better is always a good thing.

In my opinion Marauder changes are rather meh. I have yet to see a rat you can tank to death. So at best the marauders are the same as they were before changes (Golem) or a bit worse off.

just a quote from ccp rise recently;



Black ops may see some attention soon.

So you're telling me there isn't a "Jump Portal Generator I" in the game meant to be fitted to titans? Holy crap CCP has screwed me over.

Yay, I also think, that Black ops need some love:



- remove turret bonuses and make these ships to Ewar ships (like the widow)
- Widow as a ECM ship
- Sin as a sensor damping ship
- Redeemer as a tracking distruptor ship (for neuts we have the bhaalgorn)
- Panther as a target painting ship
- increase Hp
- reduce mass
- remove algin time and speed bonus from the sin and panter and replace it to something useful
- give them full T2 resists
- Allow to fit covert ops cloaks and remove the worthless 125% bonus to cloaked speed



Theyr Combat capabillity could be replaced to a new line of T2 battleships, as a CCP character said back in 2012. (for example my proposed assault battleships)

Don't mess with my panthers please ...

Covert cloaks on battleships ... simply NO! No covert cloak makes "algin time and speed bonus" usefull ...
Ewar bonus would be nice... not the ones you picked! :P

and then CCP will nerf CPU/PG and call it balanced (there's nothing wrong with needing the module -- either I'm fitting really poorly (most likely), or those of you saying there aren't enough resources have crap skills)