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Mining Drone Love
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Lugues Slive
Diamond Light Industries
#21 - 2014-06-27 04:52:11 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
.... Speed would be great none the less, but I still don't see its 'necessity'.


This comment really hits home on a personal feeling I have when reading most responses in this forum. The idea that Eve is a sandbox is great, but people are not willing to let people ask for new tools to mold their sand because they don't deem those tools necessary. If Eve only contained that which is necessary, most of what is in the game wouldn't be there. You don't necessarily have to have 100 ways to blow up a ship, but its nice to have options.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#22 - 2014-06-27 08:40:58 UTC
Lugues Slive wrote:
This comment really hits home on a personal feeling I have when reading most responses in this forum. The idea that Eve is a sandbox is great, but people are not willing to let people ask for new tools to mold their sand because they don't deem those tools necessary. If Eve only contained that which is necessary, most of what is in the game wouldn't be there. You don't necessarily have to have 100 ways to blow up a ship, but its nice to have options.

I totally agree with that, but my opinion is also clouded by the great advises for consideration 'never change a running system' and 'don't fix which is not broken'.
That said, if the developers and majority agrees, that this will have no negative affects on anything and won't infringe on active play and rather further it, yay, I am all for a bit more speed .)
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#23 - 2014-06-27 13:40:28 UTC
I actually find the idea of a mining vessel that was exclusively drone oriented to be a fantastic idea.

I would qualify, that shooting the drones here would not cost you any security status, and would only get you a suspect flag.

I see this as encounter opportunities for high sec as well as other places, since anyone seriously believed to be either AFK or botting, could have their accusers back up their belief by shooting down those drones and scooting off.

If they really were not paying attention, their mining has ended.
If they were, then they can resupply the drones, and relocate possibly to avoid the hostile.

Ref: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=98273&find=unread
(A thread idea from 2012 on this topic)

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
Electrified Circuits
Predator Ewoks
#24 - 2014-06-27 19:19:42 UTC
I agree mining drones need an increase in yield, especially now the barges have been buffed so. I use drones in all my barges but everyone else in my corp doesnt use any say its not worth the effort.
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-06-27 19:46:16 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Isn't that afk mining ? Orbit to discourage gankers? You just need to be bumped for a sec and are are easy to hit. If the buffer tank doesn't discourage them, then the orbit won't either. Speed would be great none the less, but I still don't see its 'necessity'.

Not really. No more than stationary mining anyway. In fact it penalizes AFK behavior since when you come back you may be very far from the rocks since once the rock is gone your ship will just fly off in a straight line.

And its actually rather hard to bump a Skiff orbiting a rock at over 600 m/s in most bumping ships as their over-sized prop mods give them terrible agility. Its also quite hard for a gank catalyst to catch said Skiff and a gank Talos has real problems tracking it. Its not a replacement for a buffer tank, but it sure does make the ganker's job even harder.
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