Ships & Modules

LOL...what???

Tracking is almost always a non-issue because enemy ships can't generate enough relative transversal to overcome the huge distance. Meanwhile, sig ALWAYS determines damage if the target is smaller than weapon system's sig resolution.

So a Tornado with 1400mm arties has the same chance to hit a stationary 40-sig frigate as a Thrasher with 280mm arties?

Fascinating.

The part where Sig Radius vs. Signature Resolution determines the chance to hit, all other things being equal?

Jesus Christ.

In the event that the target frig is stationary and within the Thrasher/Nado's optimal range, the Transversal vs. Tracking modifier is made irrelevant and the only real difference is Sig Radius vs. Sig Resolution.

Let me put it this way; would the Tornado have an easier time hitting a frig burning towards it with an AB or with a MWD cranked on, giving it a huge Sig bloom?

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if anything within those parentheses is 0, the exponent becomes 0... and something to the zero power is always 1.

because angular v is the same for both ships, for angular v to be 0 both have to be still, perfectly approaching, or traveling in the same vector at the same speed.

but yeah, 0 for angular v = perfect damage, and nothing else matters between sig res, sig rad, and tracking.

here's a picture simplified to illustrate the effect of angular v becoming 0 (my handwriting is bad today)

(it's not the format people are used to. however, transversal / range = angular v, so it is simplified to angular v / turret tracking. it is my opinion that those who use transversal in overview are being bad.. use angular v instead & let the client do the math for you)

I keep thinking "just use rail megas at 225km and bedonewithit"

but for that you could use a Moa and not worry about loss

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I'm not talking about changing the equation, I'm just saying normalise different-sized turrets' tracking to a specific value.

For example, normalising all turrets to a sig res of 125 m would involve no change to medium turrets, increasing the quoted tracking speed of small turrets by a factor of 3.125 and decreasing the tracking speed of large turrets by a factor of 0.3125.

The sig res value in the tracking formula would then just be a constant of 125. There's be no change to actual tracking abilities, it'd just be getting rid of a confusing and superfluous attribute.

disregard. releasing final version later.

You may well get your wish. In F&I someone asked CCP Rise what is next on the rebalance passes and this was his answer: "I think very next thing for me is going back to Battleships and HACs for polish passes now that they've been out in the wild awhile and there's some room for improvements."

I can't be the only one to whom this pretty much reads as: "We will be nerfing the Ishtar and Dominix, other things might also happen." As much as I have used the Ishtar of late I can't say I've been overly enthusiastic about it nor could I say I'd be sorry to see it go. This has nothing to do with its quality as a ship, it has to do with my hatred of "minion" style gameplay which I have never been a fan of in any game I've ever played and the Ishtar's dominance forces the issue somewhat. Additionally, I hate when one thing is so obviously better than other options as to squeeze out other choices and the skyline is dominated by the same thing all the time as it makes for some serious stagnation. Here's hoping the Typhoon gains its damage application bonus to heavy missiles as well so rapid heavies won't lose out on a bonus. I'll stop here though as I do not wish to derail the thread.

As for the Eagle, there is real potential there as a fleet doctrine, it just will never see the light of day so long as the Ishtar remains such a superior option. Additionally it can active tank small gang fights with blasters quite well and really does not suffer much from poor projection usually associated with blasters particularly with null loaded. If you want to go overboard with crystals, blue pill and links it can really be quite fantastic.

In short think of the whole situation like this. All the HACs are like the justice league from DC comics. The Eagle is Batman. Competent and effective but completely in Superman's shadow as Superman obsoletes the entire team. The Ishtar is Superman.

EDIT: If you're interested Rise goes on to say Blops and Recons are on the short list after that.