Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Problem: Incursion Sites are to Mechanical.
Solution: Vary Spawn Locations - AND GODDAMN: LET THEM WARP IN INSTEAD OF POPPING UP OUT OF NOWHERE!

Problem: NCN (from Assault) and TPPH (from Headquarters) are time-based inbalanced.
Solution: An average Site in Assault or Headquarters take 10-12 Minutes while NCN and TPPH take 18-25 Minutes. Either increase the Time to complete the other Sites or Lower the Time for this both Sites (e.g.: Remove entire Cruiser part from the NCN; The Tower in TPPH is to Heavy - about 90% of the Sites Damage is dealed to the Tower... since its a MOBILE Sanshas Headquarters and no Sanshas BATTLETOWER: cut 50% EHP.)

Problem: The Kundalini Manifest/Uroborus is a joke and no Hi-End PVE in EVE.
Solution: Take the Happy-Happy-Fluffy-Fluffy-Lala-Fly-By-Shooting-Mom-Site and turn the current 3 useless Towers into Sanshas Battletowers from the True Creations Research Center. Replace the Mothership with a Wormhole from where it spawns as soon as all 3 Towers are destroyed (or create a new unique Site-mechanic). Add more Battleships spawns and raise the max number of Pilots to 160 (there is no epic feeling in bashing a NPC Mothership with 40 people!!!). MORE FKN EWAR!

Problem: Incursion Timers are to short.
Solution: Increase the Incursion max living time from 7 to 10 days and as there should always a balance to it: also increase the Spawn Timers from 40-48h to 40-72h or 60-72h (even Sanshas need time to rebuild Fleets and to find a new Wormhole!)

Problem: To old Story/no movement in Incursions!
Solution: Add more Sanshas <-> Concord background lore and keep on let something happen. From time to time News which let us know that we have changed something fighting the Sanshas.

Seems to me the argument about zero risk for incursions kinda falls flat when you actually look at getting into them. Sure, the people that have been running them with the same crew for months or years are, at this time, effectively risk free, but that doesn't apply to everyone. The people trying to get into good fleets are taking plenty of risks trying to find the groups that aren't full of scammers. Incursions are risk free the same way mining in null in a bubbled system with guards on standby is risk free. People identified the risks and figured out ways to minimize or eliminate them. To see CCP punish intelligent thinking such as this would just cause people to leave the game, or at best simply stop running incursions.

The risk is still there. You can't change things now just because people have figured out how to minimize it. There are plenty of opportunities for pvp elsewhere, including in hi sec. EVE being a pvp game does not mean there has to be forced pvp in every aspect, in every activity.

He may be a goon but he's right. The problem isn't how much isk the high sec incursioners make or how much risk is involved in how they make it, but in the fact that only high sec incursions have a reasonable risk to reward ratio.

So long as high sec incursions remain so much more profitable than incursions elsewhere, the small base of players that enjoy the incursion content have no incentive to run them anywhere else.

Please see: Number of Revenants in existence.

That really puts a scale on just how many low sec incursions are completed.

You appear to have missed the point rather spectacularly.

It's true, but can you imagine how much they (incursions) would have to pay to make them profitable to run in low sec if every 10th VG site cost your fleet 10 billion ISK. 100mil made 10 bil lost, not a good business plan.

And the lack of Revenants is also due to the cost of the BP, it takes 40 pilots (Plus scouts, boosters, defenders and backups) in a concerted effort of 18-24 hours to kill a Mom in high sec, in low sec I can only guess but 72 hours might be close. Now what is the time and effort of 60+ pilots worth? I would say a lot, and old sales of Revenants estimate it at 100bil. I know of at least one BP that is sitting in a hangar gathering dust because there were no buyers

WTB slot in a kodavor talos fleet.

Because ISN runs them at a level where competition is more "Involuntary co-operation" against most channels and boxers.

Come-on Kodi, (I was specific 'LOW-Sec) I was with you in a few of those Low Sec fleets, average fleet cost was around Minimum 5 bil it think the Killmails were 10 bill and that was after 5 sites and 6 hours of prep? We got roflstomped. Second time we had barely 4 sites completed in an hour (Should have been 10). Third time I went was a success, but that's more 'snatch and grab' than 'stay and grind' with only 1 site completed.

BTW I still have the POS'es anchored in case we decided to go back.

Thanks, I honestly didn't think about looking at the killboards because I was pretty sure they were ALL just trophies or ratting ships.

Aren't they supposed to deal the highest DPS out of all supercarriers with the recent changes? I remember reading somewhere that they were unquestionably the best in one specific area and pretty forgettable in everything else, I just can't remember exactly what.

I'm really interested to hear more about your experience with Revenants, it's kind of like meeting someone who has seen a Unicorn.

Very interesting. As someone with no interest in actually flying a carrier or super it's kind of hard to judge their performance from afar without trolling after all of the pilots and trying to sift the wheat of their conversations from the piles and piles of chaff and personal drama.

Well then, back to the topic? What do you think would lead to more low and null incursion running, since you seem to be more familiar with them than almost everyone else posting here?