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Crius what's going to crash?

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Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
Penguins with lasorz
#1 - 2014-06-16 17:07:11 UTC
Decided to make a different kind of topic since most of the time is what's going to increase in price, but this time lets hear everyone on the other side.

We now have the changes on sisi and while not final we can make some assumptions.

My opinion on what is going to crash is that i see quite a lot of t2modules crashing in price because their build time will be decreased thanks to a huge decrease to copy times.

So folks please share your opinions on what else might crash in price and help avoid wealth getting into just few hands Big smile
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#2 - 2014-06-16 17:25:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik
My bet is on the server.



- Anyway, Mordus ships will certainly drop a bit, but not related to Crius. It's like that with new ships.
- Large control towers have been steady, but are starting to see a slight decline which will peak around Crius. Medium towers are probably going to jump a bit and then drop back. POS modules are going to take a hit, since there wouldn't be much need for so many of them as there is now.
- Capital ship and components BPOs and BPCs will take a hit because of the increase in copy time and removal of slots in stations. Sell Orders section of the forum is already full of Capital BPOs as everyone is trying to get rid of them.

There might be other things, but I have to get back to work now Smile
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-06-16 18:46:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Exotic Dancers... because everybody will be desperately dumping their cute little asses on the market in never-before-seen quantities as they grind missions like crazy to make their PLEX payments or Slum Lord rent because the bottom has dropped out of manufacturing. Fire sales everywhere... the whole system is swirling the bowl as resource prices tank due to over-supply ... and nobody is buying new ships because they don't have time to PVP and the aforementioned crappy resource prices mean they can no longer achieve their minimum ISK/hour revenues.

Gankings go up as more and more corps turn to piracy to "pay the bills"... and CCP is flooded with record levels of complaints and petitions asking for reimbursements for any number of gank-related "that's not fair" type reasons.

It's like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac... this will not end well... but a very few people will make a vast sum of ISK on the misery of others.... because "Greed Is Good".

Or not.

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Zero Sum Gain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-06-16 19:09:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Zero Sum Gain
POS's, therefore ice and fuel products too.
Adunh Slavy
#5 - 2014-06-16 22:15:29 UTC
Low end minerals

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

GreenSeed
#6 - 2014-06-16 23:08:22 UTC
POS fuel will take a hit, the rise now is mainly due to speculation on an increase of online towers, my bet is 90% of the new POSes wont last more than a few weeks, that's as long as it will take for people to realize they are not space forts and are completely pointless in hsec, unless you do 24/7 manufacturing or research. and the people that do that, round the clock use of slots, already have their poses up.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2014-06-17 00:15:42 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Low end minerals



This, this, so many times this.

So much short term demand for minerals as people rush to get battleships stockpiles built pre-Crius.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Adunh Slavy
#8 - 2014-06-17 01:32:06 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

So much short term demand for minerals as people rush to get battleships stockpiles built pre-Crius.



Some ore hoarding going on too.

Low end moon mins may slup a bit too. Not only is it summer, but 0.4s will be mineable too.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2014-06-17 02:44:10 UTC
I would shortsell Trit, tech 2 ammo and Process decryptors, given the chance. Oh, and a couple of specific tech 2 modules.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Nihi Li'aldoko
The Mucking Fuppets
#10 - 2014-06-17 22:41:50 UTC
When is Crius?
Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
Penguins with lasorz
#11 - 2014-06-18 13:01:01 UTC
Nihi Li'aldoko wrote:
When is Crius?


According to the data we have posted on forums 22july.
Orin Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-06-22 08:44:02 UTC
T1 modules since the reprocessing nerf will nearly half the minerals that you can get from them.

On a related note, with the drop in T1 module prices, I wonder if it will mean less salvaging/looting in PVE and therefore less salvage supply on the market.
Vhelnik Cojoin
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#13 - 2014-06-22 11:09:04 UTC
I would speculate that PLEX prices will crash hard.

The industry changes may in the short term make it harder for the less than super serious industrialists to earn their keep, until they and the market have had a chance to adapt a bit. Some indy players are then likely to fund their activities through sale of PLEX, while other players simultaneously will be less inclined to buy for similar reasons: Lowered income due to changes to many form of PvE activities, like the reprocessing nerf to missions etc. For the individual player the effects may be small, yet the combined effect summed over all of New Eden could be quite noticeable.

Slightly reduced demand and slightly increased supply may be all that is needed to topple the PLEX market. We already know from fanfest that a good majority of all PLEX' bought are for 'investment' purposes, IE. an attempt to counter inflation by players with lots of ISK to spare, not for cashing in for game time.

Once the investors see the PLEX prices dropping noticeably from their current near-all-time-high, many will attempt to reduce their losses by selling, further increasing supply and putting enormous pressure on the price. Rinse, repeat, crash. We currently see the PLEX price being more or less stable for about a month, though undulating a bit due to CCP's recent PLEX sale and other effects, so we may already be giving 'er as much as she will take.

Have you Communicated with your fellow capsuleers today? It is good for the EvE-oconomy and o-kay for you.

Salmanrushdi
BlitzWaffe
#14 - 2014-07-14 14:58:24 UTC
Mineral prices will drop slightly, worthless T1 salvage will drop further in value.

But why would anyone drop their capital BPO's?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#15 - 2014-07-14 22:31:25 UTC
Salmanrushdi wrote:
Mineral prices will drop slightly, worthless T1 salvage will drop further in value.

But why would anyone drop their capital BPO's?

... because capital building in lowsec has been decimated (reprocessing & facilities).

I expect most prices to rise once people see the increased manufacturing costs.
RonPaul Rox
i'm from the government and i'm here to help
#16 - 2014-07-15 04:24:23 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Salmanrushdi wrote:
Mineral prices will drop slightly, worthless T1 salvage will drop further in value.

But why would anyone drop their capital BPO's?

... because capital building in lowsec has been decimated (reprocessing & facilities).

I expect most prices to rise once people see the increased manufacturing costs.


no because most cap bpo profit comes from making BPCs

http://imgur.com/EGjYLSL

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#17 - 2014-07-15 07:40:02 UTC
I'd argue that the best profit comes from trading them. ME/PE research or copying a few types can just about scrap 10% monthly ROI though.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#18 - 2014-07-15 15:30:13 UTC
Meta loot sells at reproc.

Anything that sells at reproc is going to adjust downward.