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Mining Permits for freighters.

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Dalto Bane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-06-22 12:26:40 UTC
I've never bought a mining permit. This is not because I wish to snub my nose at CODE., because I have have in fact made isk contributions to CODE. and other similar organizations that I feel are content creators. It's not a moral road I take when not buying a permit, its really just a simple fact that if you are not afk mining, mission running, autopiloting, if you make informed decisions on routes by using killboads, scouts, and have a logi with webs if you are freightering across EVE bulk double warp contents of freighter, then if gankers get you when you have covered all the bases, then they deserve that kill.

D40 got me recently autopiloting a shuttle in a clean clone... even though I almost emo raged quit that very instant having pod expressed me back 12 systems and cost me thousands in isk, I drove on and made a donation to CODE of about 50mil to CODE because the dudes deserve it for setting my back on the right path. I knew better and being someone who is outspoken in support of James315 and New Order, I honestly felt that my credibility would take a hit if I did not make a donation.

I do want to close this with a question to loyalanon. Do you think that this will push the rebels too far and CCP will have to react by buffing Freighters to Infinite HP with unlockable Sig Radius to stifle the rebel haulers crys?

Drops Mic

Ikaros TypeAlpha
Doomheim
#62 - 2014-06-22 14:00:08 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
I'd just like this time to advise all freighter pilots that a mining permit is required to transport goods around in all James 315 territory. Mining permits can be purchased for the low low price of 10mil isk for 365 days of high sec indulgences. Please contact your local new order agent with any questions regarding a permit.

Thankyou and have a great code-compliant day.



Please Please pay attention to us, we are still relevant....


lol noob, ganking doesnt count as ligit kills. your all are just a sad sad group of people and shall grow tired and be eterminated.
Madame Trout
Doomheim
#63 - 2014-06-22 14:06:05 UTC
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
I'd just like this time to advise all freighter pilots that a mining permit is required to transport goods around in all James 315 territory. Mining permits can be purchased for the low low price of 10mil isk for 365 days of high sec indulgences. Please contact your local new order agent with any questions regarding a permit.

Thankyou and have a great code-compliant day.



Please Please pay attention to us, we are still relevant....


lol noob, ganking doesnt count as ligit kills. your all are just a sad sad group of people and shall grow tired and be eterminated.


More English, less shitposting please.
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#64 - 2014-06-22 18:45:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Zero Sum Gain
Dalto Bane wrote:


D40 got me recently autopiloting a shuttle in a clean clone. I drove on and made a donation to CODE of about 50mil. I honestly felt that my credibility would take a hit if I did not make a donation


Are you sure 50mil is enough to wipe out that much red from your ledger?
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#65 - 2014-06-22 19:36:06 UTC
Dalto Bane wrote:


I do want to close this with a question to loyalanon. Do you think that this will push the rebels too far and CCP will have to react by buffing Freighters to Infinite HP with unlockable Sig Radius to stifle the rebel haulers crys?


To answer your question. I don't believe ccp will give in this time, given that 90% of our freighter kills are freighters that are anti-tanked and/or autopiloting, CCP have no reason to give in. The people crying about freighter ganking have been given the tools to protect themselves and yet still don't make any effort on there part.

If suicide ganking was nerfed in anyway I believe that there would be riots in jita etc on a much larger scale then monocle-gate etc.
Not from Code so much but other large alliances that organise things like Burn Jita, hulkageddon etc etc.

Suicide ganking is one of the game mechanics that sets eve online apart from other MMOs, and if you aren't smart enough to protect yourself, you don't deserve to fly it.
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#66 - 2014-06-22 20:18:03 UTC
loyalanon wrote:


Suicide ganking is one of the game mechanics that sets eve online apart from other MMOs


Actually it was very much a part of lower lvl neutral towns like gadgetzan in world of warcraft. Though with some luck and skill you could escape the guards.

Suicide ganking as a profitable industry is very eve.
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#67 - 2014-06-22 23:30:30 UTC
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:

lol noob, ganking doesnt count as ligit kills. your all are just a sad sad group of people and shall grow tired and be eterminated.


Yeah. All right, New Order - everyone dock up, sell all of the ships, head back to Jita and start running missions or AFK mining. Not a single kill we have qualifies as a "ligit"(sic) kill by the well known and established authority on all kills "Ikaros TypeAlpha" and the truly elite record of combat from the mighty powerhouse corporation of "Master Synapse Of New Eden" - the corporation that is so elite that it only requires one member who does not even have the need to have a single kill of any type in it's history.

It's been fun, New Order - let's just quit now before we are all "eterminated".
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#68 - 2014-06-22 23:50:25 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
I feel like CODE. posts are the equivalent to my Yorkshire Terrier puppy yapping away at the squirrel, just because he can.

Lots of bark, no bite.


Right! I mean, we're only sitting at 746.41 billion in kills this month. That's hardly any bite at all! Oh well, at least we have somehow managed to be a bit ahead of other alliances that have no bite at all that no one has heard of, little alliances like...

* Brave Collective - 636.96b kills so far this month.
* Nulli Secunda - 494.23b so far this month.
* Goonswarm - 718.85b so far this month.

Oh wait! I forgot the part about none of our kills "count" because they took place in in systems with a sec status greater then 0.4 - we really need to bug CCP into fixing this longstanding problem of kills that everyone knows don't "count" from being counted just like any other kill that happens anywhere. And while we are at it - the only kills that should "count" in the first place should be limited to "fair fights" - it's getting really old seeing all those kills somehow being shown in the same way as any other kill that happens anywhere.

Wait! I have the perfect solution. We gather a panel of 1000 high-sec miners and mission runners who have little to no experience in PVP or general game mechanics, and every kill is reviewed by the members of the panel that are online at the time and any kills that don't "count" are removed by the panel. That way, we can also make sure all the kills that are due to "blobbing", "cheap tricks", "overpowered ships" and all the other reasons that kills don't "count" are removed as well.

And we could just end this whole process by only counting kills that take place between two players with equal skillpoints in the exact same ship with the exact same fittings. I mean, anything else would be totally unfair!
Grenadier Greyback
May Cause Irritation
#69 - 2014-06-22 23:50:55 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:

It's been fun, New Order - let's just quit now before we are all "eterminated".


I can haz?

https://i.imgur.com/xnZKiON.gif

DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#70 - 2014-06-23 00:07:15 UTC
Grenadier Greyback wrote:

I can haz?


Might as well, I mean - we just found out that not a single kill we have ever made "counts" and that nothing matters anyway, we will grow tired and be "eterminated".

Gonna contract you about 45,000 catalyst hulls and fittings, along with thousands of other ships of other types that we use during operations in just a moment here - hope you can get some use out of them.

Man, I was having such fun too. I had no idea that the game client was totally bugged and seemed to be showing all these kills right there in my character sheet that don't "count". We really should get CCP to fix this.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#71 - 2014-06-23 00:54:04 UTC
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:


lol noob, ganking doesnt count as ligit kills. your all are just a sad sad group of people and shall grow tired and be eterminated.


(yet from another thread)

Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:
So ive been around the incursion communities and only found 1 (which is now dead) that didnt think they were gods gift to eve.
Ive begin to war dec them to fight them but as soon as i war dec the arrogant ones simply just jump corp after their claims of being a better pilot but refuse to show that skill other then how lazy he can make his billions killing red crosses. Something needs to be done against those that think their invincible. Perhaps a way to lock people in to corp at war dec, after all the mechanic is there for POCOs



How does the same person make such a solid (if poorly articulated) point as the second post, and also manages to vomit out such rubbish in this thread?

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Clara Pond
Never Not Snazzy
#72 - 2014-06-23 00:56:57 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Man, I was having such fun too. I had no idea that the game client was totally bugged and seemed to be showing all these kills right there in my character sheet that don't "count". We really should get CCP to fix this.


Don't lose heart, DJ. James 315 sees every kill, "ligit" or otherwise. Believe in yourself, because James believes in you.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#73 - 2014-06-23 01:06:42 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:


lol noob, ganking doesnt count as ligit kills. your all are just a sad sad group of people and shall grow tired and be eterminated.


(yet from another thread)

Ikaros TypeAlpha wrote:
So ive been around the incursion communities and only found 1 (which is now dead) that didnt think they were gods gift to eve.
Ive begin to war dec them to fight them but as soon as i war dec the arrogant ones simply just jump corp after their claims of being a better pilot but refuse to show that skill other then how lazy he can make his billions killing red crosses. Something needs to be done against those that think their invincible. Perhaps a way to lock people in to corp at war dec, after all the mechanic is there for POCOs



How does the same person make such a solid (if poorly articulated) point as the second post, and also manages to vomit out such rubbish in this thread?


Simple. Both points are awful, as is the poster. Their statements are contradictory because the poster has no consistent set of values or ideas and is only asking for the game to give them what they want.
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#74 - 2014-06-23 07:19:39 UTC
James 315 is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in the asteroid belt: he leadeth me beside the gates.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of Aufay, I will fear no evil: for the code is with me; thy blaster and thy catalyst they comfort me.

Thou preparest a freighter before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with his blessing; my overheat runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of Code. forever.
Ji Hyu Song
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-06-23 09:05:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Ji Hyu Song
Kinda enjoy reading dumb and dumber comments. It makes me laugh.
Keep up the good work. We need these laughs from our dull mining routine.

Oh, your jokes are only 5 isk worth. Come over to Jita and I'll pay 5 isk.Lol
Grenadier Greyback
May Cause Irritation
#76 - 2014-06-23 09:13:35 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Grenadier Greyback wrote:

I can haz?


Might as well, I mean - we just found out that not a single kill we have ever made "counts" and that nothing matters anyway, we will grow tired and be "eterminated".

Gonna contract you about 45,000 catalyst hulls and fittings, along with thousands of other ships of other types that we use during operations in just a moment here - hope you can get some use out of them.

Man, I was having such fun too. I had no idea that the game client was totally bugged and seemed to be showing all these kills right there in my character sheet that don't "count". We really should get CCP to fix this.


EXTRA EXTRA, REAAAAAD ALLLL ABAAAAT IT!

CODE Disbanded, the omnipresent James 315 announces that a work-fair will be held so that the former agents can find new employ.

When asked, an anonymous agent had this to say
"I just don't know what to do with myself, I feel so dirty, I'm like a bastard, i'm so illegitimate I might as well change my surname to Snow. How can I live with myself knowing this? It's all so sudden, one minute I'm filling up a kill board, the next thing I know, I see this forum post telling me that I'm a bastard. I guess I'll just go mine some ore"

https://i.imgur.com/xnZKiON.gif

412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2014-06-23 10:13:10 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Anya Klibor wrote:
I feel like CODE. posts are the equivalent to my Yorkshire Terrier puppy yapping away at the squirrel, just because he can.

Lots of bark, no bite.


Right! I mean, we're only sitting at 746.41 billion in kills this month. That's hardly any bite at all! Oh well, at least we have somehow managed to be a bit ahead of other alliances that have no bite at all that no one has heard of, little alliances like...

* Brave Collective - 636.96b kills so far this month.
* Nulli Secunda - 494.23b so far this month.
* Goonswarm - 718.85b so far this month.

Oh wait! I forgot the part about none of our kills "count" because they took place in in systems with a sec status greater then 0.4 - we really need to bug CCP into fixing this longstanding problem of kills that everyone knows don't "count" from being counted just like any other kill that happens anywhere. And while we are at it - the only kills that should "count" in the first place should be limited to "fair fights" - it's getting really old seeing all those kills somehow being shown in the same way as any other kill that happens anywhere.

Wait! I have the perfect solution. We gather a panel of 1000 high-sec miners and mission runners who have little to no experience in PVP or general game mechanics, and every kill is reviewed by the members of the panel that are online at the time and any kills that don't "count" are removed by the panel. That way, we can also make sure all the kills that are due to "blobbing", "cheap tricks", "overpowered ships" and all the other reasons that kills don't "count" are removed as well.

And we could just end this whole process by only counting kills that take place between two players with equal skillpoints in the exact same ship with the exact same fittings. I mean, anything else would be totally unfair!


/thread

Thank you to our goon overlords for making this happen

Champions of high sec

James 315 our beacon of light

The code always wins

A True Champion of High Security Space

Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#78 - 2014-07-01 20:47:40 UTC
Dalto Bane wrote:
I've never bought a mining permit. This is not because I wish to snub my nose at CODE., because I have have in fact made isk contributions to CODE. and other similar organizations that I feel are content creators. It's not a moral road I take when not buying a permit, its really just a simple fact that if you are not afk mining, mission running, autopiloting, if you make informed decisions on routes by using killboads, scouts, and have a logi with webs if you are freightering across EVE bulk double warp contents of freighter, then if gankers get you when you have covered all the bases, then they deserve that kill.

D40 got me recently autopiloting a shuttle in a clean clone... even though I almost emo raged quit that very instant having pod expressed me back 12 systems and cost me thousands in isk, I drove on and made a donation to CODE of about 50mil to CODE because the dudes deserve it for setting my back on the right path. I knew better and being someone who is outspoken in support of James315 and New Order, I honestly felt that my credibility would take a hit if I did not make a donation.

I do want to close this with a question to loyalanon. Do you think that this will push the rebels too far and CCP will have to react by buffing Freighters to Infinite HP with unlockable Sig Radius to stifle the rebel haulers crys?


The recent Freighter changes gave freighters more options to tank(it also gave them options to become less tanky). I hope that CCP will continue along this line. Freighters can make it a lot harder to gank them, but they can also choose to die easily.

My main concern is that CCP will buff the tankty freighters until they are vastly superior to the other options to the point even bad players recognize it(like making skiff yield equal to a Mackinaws).
Winchester Steele
#79 - 2014-07-01 23:27:02 UTC
Heinrich Erquilenne wrote:
loyalanon wrote:
I suggest you read up on the killboards. Yesterday a triple reenforced bulkhead fenrir died that was empty. Why? No mining permit.


That's just pointless bragging. It wouldn't be sustainable on the long run. One guy is just one guy. But keep lying about it, I will keep saying anecdotes aren't evidence. Big smile



Wrong. Myself and many other shareholders will continue to donate isk, materials and whatever else is needed so that our brothers and sisters of CODE may continue to do god's work indefinitely.

And one guy lol. You need to clean your glasses if you think it's just one guy (not that loyal isn't a total beast.)

Go to www.minerbumping.com and have a peek at the treasury. All that isk will be used to fund the destruction of the non-compliant, and more pours in by the day.


Might as well face facts son; the CODE always wins.

...

Winchester Steele
#80 - 2014-07-01 23:31:30 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Anya Klibor wrote:
I feel like CODE. posts are the equivalent to my Yorkshire Terrier puppy yapping away at the squirrel, just because he can.

Lots of bark, no bite.


Right! I mean, we're only sitting at 746.41 billion in kills this month. That's hardly any bite at all! Oh well, at least we have somehow managed to be a bit ahead of other alliances that have no bite at all that no one has heard of, little alliances like...

* Brave Collective - 636.96b kills so far this month.
* Nulli Secunda - 494.23b so far this month.
* Goonswarm - 718.85b so far this month.

Oh wait! I forgot the part about none of our kills "count" because they took place in in systems with a sec status greater then 0.4 - we really need to bug CCP into fixing this longstanding problem of kills that everyone knows don't "count" from being counted just like any other kill that happens anywhere. And while we are at it - the only kills that should "count" in the first place should be limited to "fair fights" - it's getting really old seeing all those kills somehow being shown in the same way as any other kill that happens anywhere.

Wait! I have the perfect solution. We gather a panel of 1000 high-sec miners and mission runners who have little to no experience in PVP or general game mechanics, and every kill is reviewed by the members of the panel that are online at the time and any kills that don't "count" are removed by the panel. That way, we can also make sure all the kills that are due to "blobbing", "cheap tricks", "overpowered ships" and all the other reasons that kills don't "count" are removed as well.

And we could just end this whole process by only counting kills that take place between two players with equal skillpoints in the exact same ship with the exact same fittings. I mean, anything else would be totally unfair!



This post has the exact right amount of pshhhhhhhh.

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