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Why does the expanded probe launcher need so much CPU?

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#41 - 2014-06-16 14:48:33 UTC
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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#42 - 2014-06-16 14:53:02 UTC
Did someone say that a Heron with a EPL gimps its fit?

Its fit to do... what else, exactly

And in regards to the Condor comment, I think you will find a Condor cannot tank while doing its primary purpose in any way at all (except hull or speed), so by your measurement it is gimped

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#43 - 2014-06-16 15:17:47 UTC
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I've also managed to fit an expanded launcher onto quite a few ships that are not typically thought of as scanning ships, but I wouldn't claim that means it's not a problem. Without seeing your "fully functional" interceptor, I'm going to guess it has about it's entire low and rigging slots dedicated to CPU.

No... but overdrives, tackle, mwd and a cap booster.

That was before cpu rigs too... and the ares is the best interceptor for pulling it off.

Game mechanics are my friend.

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#44 - 2014-06-16 15:20:30 UTC
If you want to scan down booster alts you need to buy an extra account.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Jessica Duranin
Doomheim
#45 - 2014-06-16 15:44:08 UTC
Well, it would be nice to have some alternative to a T3 when it comes to a scan-tackler. Just something to bring some variation to the whole "T3 or go home" meta in w-space.
But I suspect CCP will just nerf the cr*p out of T3s at some point instead of spreading their capabilities to other ships...Ugh
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2014-06-16 16:30:26 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
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I've also managed to fit an expanded launcher onto quite a few ships that are not typically thought of as scanning ships, but I wouldn't claim that means it's not a problem. Without seeing your "fully functional" interceptor, I'm going to guess it has about it's entire low and rigging slots dedicated to CPU.

No... but overdrives, tackle, mwd and a cap booster.

That was before cpu rigs too... and the ares is the best interceptor for pulling it off.

Game mechanics are my friend.
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Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-06-16 17:02:43 UTC
I don't really know what all this sperg is about. The expanded probe launcher fits perfectly on the Hyperion. A ship that gives you beastly Gank, Tank & Drone options.

Cry Less and Hyperion More!

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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#48 - 2014-06-16 20:51:04 UTC
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:
I don't really know what all this sperg is about. The expanded probe launcher fits perfectly on the Hyperion. A ship that gives you beastly Gank, Tank & Drone options.

Cry Less and Hyperion More!


Do I look Gallente? P
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-06-17 01:09:20 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Did someone say that a Heron with a EPL gimps its fit?

Its fit to do... what else, exactly

And in regards to the Condor comment, I think you will find a Condor cannot tank while doing its primary purpose in any way at all (except hull or speed), so by your measurement it is gimped


Christina Project wrote:
No... but overdrives, tackle, mwd and a cap booster.

That was before cpu rigs too... and the ares is the best interceptor for pulling it off.

Game mechanics are my friend.


In some people's minds, fast tackle seems to equate to cannon fodder, but I think that's a matter of fatalism more than game mechanics. To my mind, contact scout is probably the most skilled position in a fleet, which may explain why so many baddies die attempting to fill the role.

If you think a ship that does no DPS, has no tank, has exactly one damage mitigation strategy, and all the electronic, physical, and capacitor resilience of a medium scout drone is "fully enabled", there's probably no middle ground for us. To me, that's gimped. I can't imagine what a fully enabled destroyer or battlecruiser looks like to you.

Serene Repose wrote:
Okay. This OP tops the crybaby scale. I thought the E1 fanbase had a lock on that, but this is so petty as to make the internet moan in agony at the bandwidth loss. Train up for a ship that uses the scanner, dummy. It won't fit on your suicide ganking dessy. I guess you realize that now.

Scanner tackler. Have you people lost your minds?


How is being wholely incapable of finding the enemy a petty issue? How can there even be a game without the ability to find the other players? The real question being asked is "How much should I have to sacrifice for the ability to find my opponent?". If I can't even field a decent fitting on a ship that is specialized for scanning, doesn't that constrain us to play the game a certain way versus if we were able to decently tank a combat probing ship or fit it to effectively strike targets or fit it to disrupt an opposing fleet in preparation for a full blown engagement, etc.?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#50 - 2014-06-17 01:27:25 UTC
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:
If I can't even field a decent fitting on a ship that is specialized for scanning, doesn't that constrain us to play the game a certain way versus if we were able to decently tank a combat probing ship or fit it to effectively strike targets or fit it to disrupt an opposing fleet in preparation for a full blown engagement, etc.?


You're acting like that isn't 100% intended.

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Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#51 - 2014-06-17 10:42:54 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You're acting like that isn't 100% intended.


I'm exploring the implications of the status quo, whether it is 100% intended or not. The original post is outright questioning why it is intended.

We know how the game works. The question is why should it work that way (and what does that mean in terms of gameplay).
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#52 - 2014-06-17 10:45:41 UTC
I didnt realise Buzzards were hard to train

Or that the the Heron should be buffed so hard as to make the Buzzby obsolete

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#53 - 2014-06-17 11:40:35 UTC
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:

I'm exploring the implications of the status quo, whether it is 100% intended or not. The original post is outright questioning why it is intended.


No, the original post is a whiny, hand wringing, inanity.


Quote:

We know how the game works. The question is why should it work that way (and what does that mean in terms of gameplay).


Even the mildest ability for introspective thought should provide you the answer to this.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#54 - 2014-06-17 13:11:12 UTC
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ISD Flidais Asagiri
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#55 - 2014-06-22 21:58:48 UTC
Moved to Ships and Modules.

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