Warfare & Tactics

Just assume there is no solo PvP and bring friends. This is a MMO after all. Heck most of the solo play you do get is against people with links, so not really solo there; or they are bait.

Hopefully these changes will make people up their game and start using bigger ships.

nothing really changed for me as soloer. In past when i helped to attack a system i picked just any ship i wanted, now i pick something with dps or make sure that others sit in dps ships (basically any destroyer or faction frig of choice will do) to quickly kill the rat.

Sitting in the huola medium plex after killing the rat with a sentinel was fun in past but i do realize that medium plexes where never designed for this ship class. Bringing something with actual dps to contest a system is a good thing - i don't see any problem with this design choice.

It will take time till people adapt. Stabbed destroyers are already here. Wait till players realize that they can now actually live in a FW system without trading time 1:1 with unfightable farmers to defend the system. The chance is that we will have more content providing players in low and less npc-like individuals which aren't interested in sov at all only in LP.

are the FW changes perfect? nope, but i already said it all in the feedback threads and i don't really want to repeat it everywhere.

Do neuts take a faction standings hit for destroying a member of a faction militia?

Should all systems under militia control only allow those of the occupying faction dock at the stations within the system?

This thread was about the effects on solo pvp.

I don't think ccp ever intended these plexes to prevent someone in a t1 frigate from fighting afs, destroyers, or cruisers if they were willing to try. But these changes tend to prevent that so I might be wrong.

I'm fine.

Things have generally slowed down a bit because it's summer but i'm still getting enough solo fights.

There seem to be less frigates around these days but i really like that you can't just run all plexes in a frig anymore so people are actually encouraged to ship up. Which is great.

I really can't see the problem. Adapt or die, you know the rules.

Your face combined with this post made me lol.

the problem is that FW plexes used to be the ideal sandbox mechanic: if your ship could fit, you could do whatever you wanted there and if nobody stopped you then you'd get paid for it too. Now, live pilots don't have to stop you from doing whatever because the game will spawn red crosses to do that for the players. Now, two FW pilots cannot engage in a duel in the privacy of a plex without one of them being at an overwhelming disadvantage due to rat interference. This, of course, has zero effect on fleet fights, but kills the potential for soloing. In other words, this so-called solution has, rather than reinforced the sandbox, harmed it by limiting options.

The most insulting thing about this change is that it hasn't even changed the FW landscape, and likely will continue to not do so, because exploitative farming was not a fault of the plex mechanics to begin with. Most exploitative behaviour in the game is a result of there being too few pilots across too many systems. For example, it's difficult to stop a gatecamp in systems where only a few hauler alts will pass through in any given time period. Conversely, it's trivially easy to stop a gatecamp in an active part of FW space where a reaction fleet can be assembled from the 40 in local. Similarly, it's easy to stop farming when you have active pilots in the same system as a farmer and they are given some incentive to stop the farming from happening.

You don't have to look far to see what happens as a result of terrible PvE mechanics providing inadequate incentives: most of the PvP pilots engage in campaigns focused on bottleneck systems while the rest of the warzone languishes in whatever state. Why not just take those backwater systems out of the warzone altogether? I mean, if they're not being used for FW activity by the very PvP pilots complaining about farming, then farming is the only possible use for them. It's not like returning them to neutral state will prevent FW pilots from engaging in sanctioned combat with other FW pilots in those systems.

Seriously, what good has come of having all these systems involved in the sov grind? What use do they have other than enabling farming? Why would cutting out some of these systems not be a BETTER solution than killing solo FW PvP?

I strongly disagree , there still is a fair amount of soloing in FW.I ''checked'' your kills and noticed you VERRY rarely fly solo as such i'd say it is only normal you mostly encounter blobs as you yourself fly in blobs.

As someone who has been doing only solo fights for the last 2 months -and the 2 months before that mostly solo - i do find solo fights in a reasonable number still , regardless of dying a lot or not .As an ex-squid and having some of my best friends in the squids it does sadden me though to say that i do agree with the galmil in regards to squids ''not bringing it solo'' even though everyone deserves to play by their own enjoyment/tactics offcourse wich should be needless to say.

When i was in FW i took it as gallpropoganda - as every entity in eve does it's own propaganda - that squids avoid solo fights but i have a verry hard time finding solo fights with calmil and if i do it is because their friends took too long to enter the plex where their friend is fighting me in.The gallente however i have no problem finding a decent amount of solo fights and this especially goes for JUSTK.Same goes for some pirate groups like WAFFLE who in my experience also enjoy and honour their solo fights.Unless you stumble onto a roam of theirs offcourse then you're basically ****** .

Well looking at it from the bright side i'd say low-sec is getting a LOT more attention then before FW was there from CCP.It turned into a complete wasteland untill CCP introduced FW.

That said i do agree that it would benefit the people in FW and low-sec in general if there was an option to upgrade systems though i'd mostly like the idea of upgrading it only and purely for iskgains and not in defensive/pvp gains.

I would also see the option to reinstore docking rights for people from factions who do not own the system BUT without the use of any station service and the market in that station as an improvement to keep players into FW.If there would be a possibility with a timer that when a system get's taken from the opposing side the station is undockable for 24 hours for example for the ''ex-owners'''of the system .

However that is something i think a lot of people can agree AND disagree about.

In a fair amount of agreement with the OP. Rat DPS even with Novices can effect the outcome of a fight, especially in kiting fits. Has this effected the frequency of solo PvP? No Idea, but the numbers speak for themselves, by inches or by miles rat DPS effects PvP.

In fact, I still cannot fathom a decent reason why the rats in Plexes should have any DPS at all. If there sole and only purpose is to limit plexing, they accomplish that purely on the basis of there active repping. CCP has already nuked there DPS several times on the basis of making them irrelevant to PvP. Don't know if they can cut the DPS to zero with that rat difficulty slider or whatever but they should.

If a ship can't run a plex, it just sits there, and does nothing. Having rats apply DPS for no other reason then 'their rats" is bad gameplay.