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EVE is the best!

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Eddard Licinius
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-06-12 21:10:09 UTC
I played EVE like four years ago and it didn't really jive with me, but this time around I'm really digging its vibe. I've been mining, making millions, doing security missions, and currently waiting on training for mining barge and post-BC ships.

I see plenty of complaining about the game being unforgiving or certain players being relentless, but I haven't really seen any of that yet. Even skimming around in lowsec with my Venture, I've managed to keep out of trouble. It seems some people take the game very seriously, and like to impose that hardcore mentality onto others, but I don't really have a problem with any of that. I think MMOs are all about being immersed and trying to share that with others.

Even though I'm a loner and probably won't join a corp until I want to do some nullsec mining ops, there's plenty in the game for a person like me. I can play the market, mine endlessly, do all the pve missions, and team up with another friend for bigger challenges. Most MMOs have a ton of downtime. Waiting for raids, dungeons, pvp, opportunities. But in EVE, your time and efficiency ratio are entirely up to you. If you want to menu-hop for hours and not leave the station, that's up to you! And you can still make money doing that. I, however, like to aim for no wasted movements. No wasted trips. Always doing something.

This post doesn't have a point, but I suppose is an appropriate vehicle for me to introduce my apt presence to the forums, and to greet those of you who have enjoyed and mastered the game over the years.

Hello, and good day to you all.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2014-06-12 21:27:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
EDIT: beaten by forum ghosts that stole/reset my post.

Anyway, all the best.
Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2014-06-12 21:28:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
You simply don't have anything anyone wants yet. That is why you haven't experienced anything all the whiners complain about. Stay vigilant as you obtain more valuable assets and you should be fine.

I appreciate your positive attitude and hope you are able to keep it, even after bad thing start to happen.

Good luck.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-06-12 21:43:16 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You simply don't have anything anyone wants yet. That is why you haven't experienced anything all the whiners complain about. Stay vigilant as you obtain more valuable assets and you should be fine.

I appreciate your positive attitude and hope you are able to keep it, even after bad thing start to happen.

Good luck.

The key here is don't PLEX as a new player. When you start Eve you don't have anything anyone wants nor the sense to protect something they do want. When some new player all the sudden has 5 billion ISK he bought with RL money through PLEX he becomes a victim. Then he rages on the forums because he just lost RL money with his mistake.
Eddard Licinius
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-06-12 21:46:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Eddard Licinius
IIshira wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You simply don't have anything anyone wants yet. That is why you haven't experienced anything all the whiners complain about. Stay vigilant as you obtain more valuable assets and you should be fine.

I appreciate your positive attitude and hope you are able to keep it, even after bad thing start to happen.

Good luck.

The key here is don't PLEX as a new player. When you start Eve you don't have anything anyone wants nor the sense to protect something they do want. When some new player all the sudden has 5 billion ISK he bought with RL money through PLEX he becomes a victim. Then he rages on the forums because he just lost RL money with his mistake.



Hahaha nice. I actually got a friend to buy me a plex for the first month (past the trial anyway) so bonus, right?

And I've noticed that whilst humming around in my Venture, people generally ignore me. As I'm sure most would-be pirates have the freight sensors to check my freight, so they realize I don't have much of anything of worth.

You know what I should do is buy 30 plex and load them in a reaper and fly around on autopilot. hmmm

EDIT: Forgot to add that I've had two ships destroyed so far. One was a Thrasher in a duel with someone who essentially hustled me. I looked at her pilot info and saw she began her character 20 minutes ago and thought "Oh hey, I could beat her" and she had warp scramblers and webifiers all up in my face. Was pretty epic. She almost got another ship when I mistakenly left the dock after I had cloned. But I was quick with the draw, by clicking "Dock"

Second ship I lost was a Mammoth in .5 sec space. I got stuck on an asteroid while trying to warp out from belt rats. I felt so stupid haha
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-06-12 21:53:57 UTC
Eddard Licinius wrote:
I've had two ships destroyed so far. One was a Thrasher in a duel with someone who essentially hustled me. I looked at her pilot info and saw she began her character 20 minutes ago and thought "Oh hey, I could beat her" and she had warp scramblers and webifiers all up in my face. Was pretty epic. She almost got another ship when I mistakenly left the dock after I had cloned. But I was quick with the draw, by clicking "Dock"

She definitely sounds like wife material there..

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-06-12 21:59:22 UTC
Eddard Licinius wrote:
IIshira wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You simply don't have anything anyone wants yet. That is why you haven't experienced anything all the whiners complain about. Stay vigilant as you obtain more valuable assets and you should be fine.

I appreciate your positive attitude and hope you are able to keep it, even after bad thing start to happen.

Good luck.

The key here is don't PLEX as a new player. When you start Eve you don't have anything anyone wants nor the sense to protect something they do want. When some new player all the sudden has 5 billion ISK he bought with RL money through PLEX he becomes a victim. Then he rages on the forums because he just lost RL money with his mistake.



Hahaha nice. I actually got a friend to buy me a plex for the first month (past the trial anyway) so bonus, right?

And I've noticed that whilst humming around in my Venture, people generally ignore me. As I'm sure most would-be pirates have the freight sensors to check my freight, so they realize I don't have much of anything of worth.

You know what I should do is buy 30 plex and load them in a reaper and fly around on autopilot. hmmm

EDIT: Forgot to add that I've had two ships destroyed so far. One was a Thrasher in a duel with someone who essentially hustled me. I looked at her pilot info and saw she began her character 20 minutes ago and thought "Oh hey, I could beat her" and she had warp scramblers and webifiers all up in my face. Was pretty epic. She almost got another ship when I mistakenly left the dock after I had cloned. But I was quick with the draw, by clicking "Dock"

Second ship I lost was a Mammoth in .5 sec space. I got stuck on an asteroid while trying to warp out from belt rats. I felt so stupid haha

Nothing wrong with getting a PLEX for implants or whatever but it's a slippery slope. The problem starts when you have that two week old player in a faction battleship.

If you get stuck on something just double click in space to manually pilot away from the object. Better to learn this lesson in something cheap.
Eddard Licinius
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-06-12 22:12:56 UTC
True story. I'll be more wise next time. And yeah, I don't plan to pay any of my hard-earned real life crisp dollar bills on this game beyond the monthly sub. While this game is definitely worth the extra expenditures, I know for a fact that my "fun factor" would diminish markedly. Earning that faction battleship is more fun, even if it takes months.

I have a friend who started the game at the same time, and he bought that 2-for-1 plex dealio so he could dual-box characters. This game tailors to that, I think, and many situations and scenarios would be infinitely more doable with two simultaneous characters. But, I just don't feel like trying to go for 100% efficiency with two characters. Mining on one, missions on another, or market, or traveling. That much effort defeats the AFK-friendly nature of the game. I can be typing this while mining next to a Hulk in .5sec space. If I'm close enough to him, he'll be forced to kill the pirates :D

And I'm sure there are people who are permanently against AFK mining, but I don't really see why they should care. It isn't hurting anything or anyone as far as I can tell.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-06-12 22:16:31 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
You simply don't have anything anyone wants yet. That is why you haven't experienced anything all the whiners complain about. Stay vigilant as you obtain more valuable assets and you should be fine.

I appreciate your positive attitude and hope you are able to keep it, even after bad thing start to happen.

Good luck.

The key here is don't PLEX as a new player. When you start Eve you don't have anything anyone wants nor the sense to protect something they do want. When some new player all the sudden has 5 billion ISK he bought with RL money through PLEX he becomes a victim. Then he rages on the forums because he just lost RL money with his mistake.

It depends really. I took the cardinal rules of EVE to heart after my trial ended. Don't fly what you can afford to lose. Since FW is mostly frig warfare that one plex supplied me with an abundant amount of frigates to blow up and learn how to PVP. To this day I haven't regretted that decision. Doing L2 missions and mining simply isn't my thing since I joined EVE when I watched goons getting dunked in Asakai in youtube.

Of course if I went the carebear route and bought a BS with only >900k SP it would have popped instantly.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Eddard Licinius
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-06-12 22:19:52 UTC
Yeah you know, I thought about getting into Faction Warfare. I haven't read up on it, as I wasn't so sure my lowly Destroyer would be worthy of FW adventures. But if you say it's mostly frigates, I may have to rethink that.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-06-12 22:19:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibyyl
Eddard Licinius wrote:
That much effort defeats the AFK-friendly nature of the game. I can be typing this while mining next to a Hulk in .5sec space. If I'm close enough to him, he'll be forced to kill the pirates :D

And I'm sure there are people who are permanently against AFK mining, but I don't really see why they should care. It isn't hurting anything or anyone as far as I can tell.

Hang on, let me get my bucket

Edit: grr iphone

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-06-12 22:31:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Yang Aurilen
Eddard Licinius wrote:
Yeah you know, I thought about getting into Faction Warfare. I haven't read up on it, as I wasn't so sure my lowly Destroyer would be worthy of FW adventures. But if you say it's mostly frigates, I may have to rethink that.

Frigs and dessies are the most common due to how FW mechanics work. Plexing in a cruiser and up solo will guarantee you a blob on your face. Even though I say that if you're smart with your cruiser it won't get caught unless you got baited by an AF. Frigates are the most common due to how cheap and fast they are compared to dessies. Exception apply to some t1 hulls and faction/t2 frig hulls are as expensive as cruiser but worth it.
EDIT: the trick to FW is basing in lowsec with ALOT of frigates. You will die alot.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#13 - 2014-06-12 22:36:44 UTC
Hello and welcome back!
Welcome to the solo players club, hope we will be hearing your thoughts about the game features...
We need more of us solos talking on the forum to give our perspectives on the game, and establish a balance with the big powers lobbyists ' voices.

Vote Borat Guereen for CSM XII

Check out the Minarchist Space Project

Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#14 - 2014-06-12 22:38:21 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Eddard Licinius wrote:
Second ship I lost was a Mammoth in .5 sec space. I got stuck on an asteroid while trying to warp out from belt rats. I felt so stupid haha
If you get stuck on something just double click in space to manually pilot away from the object. Better to learn this lesson in something cheap.
Will need to ctrl+space or "stop the ship" first to cancel warp.

Who put the goat in there?

Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-06-12 22:46:06 UTC
Ctrl+Space is your friend


Also glad to hear you are enjoying yourself =D
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#16 - 2014-06-12 22:57:48 UTC
I always enjoy these little enjoying-myself posts. Don't forget to try and blap people in a cheap frigate once in a while. It's great fun and a good way to make more friends. Lol
Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
#17 - 2014-06-12 23:11:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Django Askulf
Eddard Licinius wrote:
It seems some people take the game very seriously, and like to impose that hardcore mentality onto others, but I don't really have a problem with any of that. I think MMOs are all about being immersed and trying to share that with others.

Even though I'm a loner and probably won't join a corp until I want to do some nullsec mining ops, there's plenty in the game for a person like me.


You do realize those people who "Take the game too seriously", are the ones youll probably wanting to join, if you decide to go into null.

Eddard Licinius wrote:
That much effort defeats the AFK-friendly nature of the game. I can be typing this while mining next to a Hulk in .5sec space. If I'm close enough to him, he'll be forced to kill the pirates :D

And I'm sure there are people who are permanently against AFK mining, but I don't really see why they should care. It isn't hurting anything or anyone as far as I can tell.


Yeah, keep doing the AFK thing, and rush to buy you a faction Battleship, then shoot anyone who tries to steal your mission loot, youll be in a pwnboat, and can take them all.
Solecist Project
#18 - 2014-06-12 23:15:31 UTC
IT IS ! :D

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Eddard Licinius
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-06-13 00:56:35 UTC
Django Askulf wrote:
Eddard Licinius wrote:
It seems some people take the game very seriously, and like to impose that hardcore mentality onto others, but I don't really have a problem with any of that. I think MMOs are all about being immersed and trying to share that with others.

Even though I'm a loner and probably won't join a corp until I want to do some nullsec mining ops, there's plenty in the game for a person like me.


You do realize those people who "Take the game too seriously", are the ones youll probably wanting to join, if you decide to go into null.

Eddard Licinius wrote:
That much effort defeats the AFK-friendly nature of the game. I can be typing this while mining next to a Hulk in .5sec space. If I'm close enough to him, he'll be forced to kill the pirates :D

And I'm sure there are people who are permanently against AFK mining, but I don't really see why they should care. It isn't hurting anything or anyone as far as I can tell.


Yeah, keep doing the AFK thing, and rush to buy you a faction Battleship, then shoot anyone who tries to steal your mission loot, youll be in a pwnboat, and can take them all.


Technically I said "People who take the game very seriously" not "People who take the game too seriously." I chose my wording because I knew one small change there would probably result in your post. Either way, your point is well taken. Games can't thrive if everyone is as lazy and friendless as I am. It needs people who are motivated and cunning to push forward and bring about changes in the political landscape that people like me deign to accept willingly.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#20 - 2014-06-13 01:02:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Eddard Licinius wrote:
Games can't thrive if everyone is as lazy and friendless as I am. It needs people who are motivated and cunning to push forward and bring about changes in the political landscape that people like me deign to accept willingly.


You get a special Ramona Award for this

Im pretty lazy, and people who become my friends wither, accidently die or stop being my friends in short order

But I like this sentiment

+1

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

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