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HELLLLLOOO CAPSULEERS! This is Hyperion Aurgnet with a special bulletin! The aforementioned art contest, mentioned here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4675714#post4675714 is a GO.

For refrence, Haiiro is an alt of mine, I will post with him here as well to confirm. That being said, Hyperion is my most social character in game who has spent the most time talking in market hubs- so he's who is being used here!

Now, back to the topic at hand!

The contest will be as follows:

In order to be a valid submission to be put up to vote, the ship must have
1. A name
2. An intended role
3. Ship class(frigate/cruiser/battlecruiser/etc)
4. Prototype bonuses. These do not have to be specific, but what bonuses would be in general must be declared. (i.e. it is acceptable to say "a bonus to MWD speed and sig radius penalty," if you cannot produce numbers.)
5. At the very least a basic sketch. This does not in any sort of way have to be artistic. Even if it looks like something a ten year old drew, I want some sort of art to show off. The core part of this contest is the mechanics of the ship, so, art isn't supposed to be nearly as important (although the community will decide that ;D)


I would be saving all submissions and displaying every submission online, in some way shape or form (probably on like imgur, unless it became really huge). Submissions can be in any media- so long as it ends up being uploaded as an image or video. that would mean anything from crayon drawings on a napkin, to ceramic sculptures, to fully fledged 3d model from blender, maya, or 3ds would be accepted, so long as they were displayed as a video or image.


The way this will work is people are going to submit their ship designs and concepts, over a several week long period (possibly around a month). Then, from there, we will have a voting system wherein the top ten selections would be put up to a poll. The top three people will win a prize, 1st prize being a PLEX, second prize being 500mil, third prize being 300mil. People will be allowed to submit as many ships as they want(but only the ones that match the above criteria will be put in the poll), and also be allowed to work in teams. However, in the case of teams, the winning team would have to split the reward amongnst themselves how they see fit.



with those rules in mind, capsuleers, I need a small bit of help! I have decided to go with a poll, with a two round system- the first round/poll would be with ALL of the submissions, and the top ten ships will be then put into another poll, wherein the final vote would be taken to decide the winners. In the case of a tie, we will start by putting in the ships if they fit into the max size of ten- in other words if two people are tied for first, then they will both go in, and the next 8 highest will continue on. If, however, there are say, ten people tied for ninth place- we will assign each ship a number and use a random number generator to determine which ships move on. This, as well as certain other parts of the contest may be streamed, in order to preserve trustworthiness.

THIS is where I need your help folks. I need a good system for polling. I want to use a website- and while I could make a polling website with PHP, mySQL, and the like- I dont have any experience with using eve API verification- which I would prefer so we could make sure people aren't cheating. If anyone has ideas for this, that would be great. I have some other proposed solutions- however they would be a lot more inconvenient for people as I would have to create usernames for each person and mail them their verification codes- but that could still leave room for each person to have up to three votes on just one account- which I want to avoid. So fellow capsuleers, do any of you know of a good service to use here?


In any case, this has been a public announcement from the one and only Hyperion Aurgnet! I would consider taking this time to start drawing up your prototypes! If anyone has any questions, please feel free to mail this character, and I will respond as promptly as possible. Let us hope this goes through smoothly, and I hope to hear of some great suggestions!

Fly safe folks, have fun, and most importantly- SPREAD THE WORD! I want this contest to show all of eve what we- the players- are all capable of! That would be done best with many many submissions from many paths in eve.


P.S. I have contacted chribba about this, and he seems positive about it. I am awaiting word on if he will officially endorse it, which will hopefully bring some more publicity to it.

P.P.S. as much as I hate bumping threads, I might have to do that if this falls behind. I would like this to stay front page for a tiny bit just to make sure that people see it =) so comment lots, so I dont have to do that =P



tl;dr for the really lazy people:

art contest is going to happen. Rules are mentioned above. Working on chribba endorsement. Please spread the word and keep this thread on front page =)

Clarifications needed and/or questions:

- is "Ten year old" an actual age requirement or could we submit art in the style of an extremely talented 6 year old?
- any restrictions on resemblance to body parts?
- is "adds 120% more awesome to fleet." an appropriate bonus?
- can it be an existing ship with spoilers, flaming exhaust and a racing stripe?
- is 'For the lulz" an 'Intended role'?

First off, I like you.

secondly:

1. It could be a drawing from the most talented 3 year old ever or timmy, 42, PHD. So long as we can at least make out a basic design
2. I have to be able to show them off without CCP banning me, so, I'd say about thorax level design is the most you can do. Resemblance but not complete blatancy (although the thorax really is blatantly phallic. Try not to be that bad) I would love a flying foot, though
3. While I am inclined to say yes, please at least mention specific, existing game modules/attributes. i.e. Makes ship a f***ing brick: no. Adds more armor resists per level: yes.
4. Most pirate ships are in fact existing hulls redesigned. If you think a ship is due for a redesign, go for it. While I would PREFER new ships, that doesnt mean some ships don't need some love (Hyena, Griffin, FREAKING CELESTIS)
5. again, very inclined to say yes, however try to have a PRACTICAL role, even if that means making a new role. i.e. Faceroll ship: no Close range Utility Brawler: sure

he looks like he wants to sell me "boosters"

just make sure it doesn't breach copyright laws (i.e. don't use copyrighted clip-art without permission)



also that rupture is beautiful

guys guys we're a little off topic here =P I don't want this locked ;D

OP has a lot to think about:

Is there a start date? When will the end date be released? You should add a time to the end date.

I think a public poll is a terrible idea, especially if the majority of votes will come from GD/forum. There should be a set of random judges, maybe from CCP staff or the volunteer crew? ISD?

Pieces submitted should have some sort of art diary, giving enough evidence to claim, with little doubt, that the work was started and completed within the competition time period.

Are people allowed to work in teams? If not, how will that rule be enforced? If teams are allowed, should that effect the models over-all mark/vote (assuming not everyone is in a team)?

You need to add a rule regarding copies of existing work: Can people copy existing work? How much can be copied? Should modifications of existing works be allowed? What about EVE models/art-works, can they be modified?

There needs to be a vote or marking scheme (ie: how votes/marks are awarded. A list would be a good start. Here is one example: votes are given based off details, design, how it fits in with the existing eve universe).



Point 4 shouldn't be a requirement and/or be part of the marking scheme. Its a waste of time. If you want to suggest new ships to CCP regarding the stats/traits, etc. Then you should start a thread in the features request forum.

To be fair, it seems you only skimmed because I did mention teams in the original post, saying teams are allowed but the reward is split among the team according to how they see fit.




Also, The idea of the poll was to have it so that each person could only cast one vote per account. I wanted to work with eve API verification- so that sure, one person might be able to cast multiple votes- but only if they have multiple accounts. It would be hard to do it on a judge basis because finding objective judges would be difficult and could potentially misrepresent what the community likes.

As for the work diary, why? what's the point of that. some people are going to get into the contest late and probably design a ship in 12 hours. some might have had the idea for months and never had a great place to suggest it. I don't want to stifle creativity. you might say this gives some people an "unfair advantage", but, anyone who has been reading up on this and likes the idea probably already has an idea in mind.

submissions that copy ideas previously submitted will be disqualified UNLESS the original owner has given permission for the new "creator" to use their work.


as for the list thing- it wouldn't be needed in the case of a poll. HOWEVER, in the case of going with judges- provided we can FIND willing judges- the list would be based probably upon as you stated- design, lore, etc.

also, I suppose I can mark #4 optional- but I would like to see people think about it. This contest was created to give birth to new ideas. I don't want to stifle people's thoughts in an attempt to be vague. Besides, this contest is ALL ABOUT new features and Ideas, and the reason I am having it is honestly I don't find the features and Ideas forum to be that powerful of a resource, and great ideas there fade into oblivion all the time. This contest is to put ideas like those on a golden pedestal.






thanks for the kind words =) I personally think things like this should happen a lot more often because it encourages community participation which can only be beneficial to a game's health. And if this takes off, I plan on doing more things just like this. It would be a great chance for people to showcase their ideas in something with massive publicity- and show CCP the kinds of things we dream about.


also, as far as the corvette thing goes- go for it. Don't break any laws by using anything trademarked/copyrighted heavily, but, if you want to call a ship class "corvette," I'm all for it. It's an awesome name. What would be the point of this class? and what size ships? =)

I actually like both Ideas a lot. The first one is kinda like an idea I've always had- A destroyer equivalent of an assault ship- fast with ridiculous firepower. The second one is really interesting. Although, I am not sure how it could provide POS defense with limited weaponry, unless its main role is to be a disable so the POS guns can take hostiles down. Might want to expand on that idea further as it sounds interesting.

While I will concede to the point of the journal being a good idea in the regards of catching cheating, I would also like to say this isnt just going to be shameless CCP MAKE THIS A THING rants. That being said, people have ideas for ships that they think they should be implemented. Of course they probably have roles for them too, which will probably entail bonuses. Like I said, I will make that part optional, but I think it adds more to an idea than just it being a pretty ship. We aren't developers. We don't need to say "it should have this much mass" "it should be this fast" etc. If we think a ship should have a role we should at least say so. Besides, if this isnt going to be a direct throw at CCP, why does it matter. I just want to see what the community thinks, we dont need to overanalyze a contest aimed at discovering people's ideas