Warfare & Tactics

FW is getting better as we speak.

Tons of fights in and around plexes.

Afk farmers went to null - many null bears now run missions to pay fpr their null careers.

If by 'mission accomplished' you mean these changes have only caused stagnation and negative results, then you are correct.

First of all, farmers are not gone. There is no reduction in farmer numbers either, anyone active in Black Rise can attest to this. The new rats have only made the grand majority of farmers stick with defensives, and with the new large spawns their isk/hour is actually better than before. The 'dedicated' farmers (i.e those that weren't just 1 day alts and were trained to run missions) simply switched to afk stabbed drone cruisers like vexors and arbitrators and are happily farming mediums and larges all day long while watching netflix. The bots adjusted their scripts and now stay around 30km before cloaking up. It took them 3 days to adapt to this.

This created a big imbalance between defending and attacking systems. Not only offensives take much longer to complete (due to constant spawns) you also have to deal with nearly every farming jumping to counter plex said systems the moment they hit 90%+, and again very few of them are offensively farming to help the cause. What once used to be a dynamic system now becomes very stagnant.

Another issue with these new mechanics is that it needlessly restricts the amount of viable frigates you can use to run offensives. Kiting ships have too low dps to run smalls and even some lower skilled pilots struggle to finish novices now. If you do the maths, you're spending like 10m on faction ammo just to kill the npcs to flip just a couple outposts. You actually make far LESS isk/hr doing offensives because of this, not even counting the added risk of intervention on enemy territory and the added time it takes to cap each outpost. This forces people to use high dps ships to PVP because of a purely arbitrary PVE mechanic. This is ********. It also does NOTHING to prevent smaller ships from farming larger outposts. An enyo or a catalyst still solo a large rat with no issues. And speaking of brawler ships, it's particulary annoying having to move 20 or 30km everytime these rats spawn in very random spots. 10-20% npc damage from rats is stupid. At this point most of my engagements are outside the outposts.

In addition to increasing the barrier of entry to new players (one of the main advantages of FW), it heavily skews the risk and reward between offensive and defensive plexing. It causes less need to fight over homesystems, it still leaves the warzone in the hands of farmers and actually removed the only positive thing farmers added to the system: reducing the boring work for PVPers and preventing stagnation of half way contested systems.

Anyone active and not delusional will agree there's a large drop in motivation to contest systems post Kronos, less action overal to defend systems, less VPs generated everyday and less systems being flipped every week. And the main LP faucet (i.e broken mission design) is still untouched. FW space is actually more attractive to pirates and neutrals than ever now.

I have said these new mechanics were stupid the moment I saw them. Very little thought was put into them and they are only a half assed fix of the real issues at hand.

yes... because you are only doing Dplexing while sitting at T4.

You sound more like a farmer yourself tbh.

You've just set a pretty high bar for the July FW Epic Whine Awards.

Did you also say the same to half your corp complaining about the same things in the dev blog thread?



Remember when I said:



Reading is hard.

2/10 for trying, though. need to work on your trolling skills

Lazors do a spectacular job and i think i've gone through MAYBE 1 set of Scorch in the last three days and the T2 crystals degrade alot faster, you could probably get away with using t1 crystals easily.

Or just use faction ammo and up that dps.

This is what FW needs!

More Logan PewPew, less BitterVet QQ.


EDIT: except the post below

Hey you've adapted. Excellent. Carry on.

How does it create an imbalance? You can take a large plex with small ships and you can take large ships with small ships.

I think that the mechanic should go further and decrease the plex time based on the number of ships you have on the plex just like absoutely EVERY other CTF/Control Point style game you've ever played. It doesn't have to be something drastic but it could maybe reduce the time grinding plexes by 25-30% i.e. instead of 20 minutes on a plex an 8 man gang could plex it in 15 minuntes

In my opinion it needs to be more about forcing the systems into contestation faster rather than these multiple week long grind fests that the mechanic forces people into now.

As it stands now it's not Faction Warfare as much as Faction Grindfest

Smaller plex: More VP/hour, Larger plex: More LP/hour. Interesting choices are better.