EVE General Discussion

I got 18%. Was about what I expected.

You are warm and empathic with a heightened awareness of social responsibility and a strong sense of conscience. You like to carefully weigh up the pros and cons of a situation before you act and are generally averse to taking risks. You are very much a ‘people person’ and dislike conflict. ‘Do unto others…’ are your watchwords. But, although you avoid hurting others, those residing at the higher end of the psychopathic spectrum might not be as considerate, so stay vigilant to avoid being hurt unnecessarily.

Oh, thank you, that's sweet! Thank you strange internet survery.

Ran some sites in High Sec. Relic are way better for the most part. But, I did run about 10 data sites, cause they are not being run. Made about 2 mill a site for very little time... Cash is cash!

One Data Site had three BP's in it... I wasn't complaining.

Yes, I totally agree with you. The game revolves around PvP - which partly (imo) explains why Eve has a core fanbase and grows very slowly (if at all).

I find it quite frustrating. CCP have created the most beautiful game - visually. It actually makes you gasp when you first jump in a ship and look around at the planets/stations/stars and so on. It's that initial gasp-factor that pulls you in - well, it did me. I thought - wow, I can't believe gaming has reached such dizzy heights. I can't wait to immerse myself in this game. Hell, I'm willing to jack real life for good and live in Eve permanently.

But then...after a few months you realise that it really is spreadsheets in space and that the whole game revolves around isk. They really should change the name of the game to Isk Online.

CCP cater/pander to those who want lots of shiny ships to blow up other shiny ships. But if you look at any succesful mmo, pvp only forms a small part of the game. There are countless people who adore pve and the immersion it brings when leaving the tedium of real life to go and live in a deep-lore based universe. In this way good mmos are like good novels or films - but, if done right, infinitely better because as a protagonist you are centrally involved in making the story.

I'm not interested in pvp. Never have been never will be. When I explore I want to immerse myself in lore/in missions/local faction disputes and so on. I want, when scanning, to find some poor bloke lost in space, and he wants me to help him return home. And to get him there takes us across the universe encountering all sorts of problems. When you rescue the damsel - well, wouldn't it feel better if you did actually rescue her, and afterwards she introduces you to scores of quests that take you on a story? I really don't want to pseudo-rescue her just to do the same again again again...missions soon make you feel quite nauseous once you've done them for a few weeks. Soon abandoned that dead end.

The industry changes looks great and I'm looking forward to trying them out. I'll probably focus on that.

On the data side - well, just done one deep in null, 6 reds next system, pirates flying everywhere (so for those who say its too safe, I beg to differ, particularly when you don't belong to a corp and everyone you see is a blue) and - 3 empty cans, 1 containing only carbon, Total value 2mill. If you factor in how long it takes to find sites, how long it takes to get the loot to market, how many gate camps/bubbles/interdictors you have to overcome then I stand by what I said at the start. Data and Relic hunting - if sadly only about Isk - then the value should be extremely high. Factoring in the above you can make more isk afk mining in highsec.

Really don't care anymore what the haters will say. Hate away. Eve is toughening me up, I admit. Another six months of this and I'll be a fully-fledged psychopath and maybe then, and only then, I'll abandon hopes of pve and begin to enjoy spreadsheet murder.

True. Mining really does kill brain cells...but at the very least you can go cook dinner or repaint that door...