EVE General Discussion

Completely agree , not on field is no bonus .

Huh, ok.

Pretty sure every fleet that goes out will have a booster alts, I guess every roaming gang can spare their much smaller number to have someone sit it out with links...

PVP > wormhole farming



"SO EASY" huh?

Is this your theory or did you actually go on a killing spree? Because I looked at your killboard for the last 9 months and I didn't see a single link ship kill!

What month did you kill a bunch of them so I can see what you used to do it.

In the event you are not just trying to talk out of the wrong orifice, and you do have a good technique that makes killing them "so easy," please come visit faction war low sec. They are like locusts. You will have a blast and become a hero in eve.

If this was true,
then people would have stopped using links already.

As it's extremely unlikely that only a tiny minority of people who like using links,
forces everybody else to use them too ... well ... I guess your argument doesn't exist in this form.

There are people whining, yes, but if you were right, the issue would have ceased to exist.

It also requires allot of extra midslots. After you put in your 2 damps and your web you still need a point and a prop mod.

You see sometimes people hope not only that they can chase something off, they hope they can also hold it long enough to kill it.

Ingenuity boils down to this:

Pay for your own link alt that you can drag along with you too, because that is the only way to be competitive in eve pvp.

Yes because ive been a little inactive the past few months does not mean I wasnt my entire eve career.

The nature of fights in WH's are very different to k space which is where I spend most of my time now and the same goes with the way links are used in WH's.


When recently I have roamed in nullsec and been against a small gang with boosts generally I have not had so much of an issue trying to fight them due to them having links that I found myself NEEDING to gank there links.

All I am saying from my past going as far back as I have Pvp'd is that links are not the be all and end all of overpowered and can be easily killed if you have the wits about you to scan them down.

The only reason you don't see 100's of boosting alts on my kill-board is because in most of the fights I have had the playing field was not so uneven and unbalanced that I was compelled to seek out and kill there booster.

I keep looking but I don't see the words 'cartel' or 'rmt' in that post.

Who are you and WTF did you do with my Dinsdale?

Not every pilot or fleet of people are of the same skill level.

You can see a 5 man gang with links completely outplay and outdo a 15 to 20 man gang with links just because they are better and more seasoned pvpers.

Your average roaming gang is not always filled with people who are good at pvp but are mostly good at taking orders from an FC but when it comes down to there own spatial awareness they will fly into scram range of a vindicator in a cynabal or something similar because they dont think far ahead other then spamming F1 to F7. In fights like this where you have a small gang vs a larger gang and the smaller gang wins its not due to having links its more so down to skill and piloting especially when boosts are on both sides.

However either way boosts still help level the playing field as I said against larger blobs because imagine having those boosts on grid and you are a smaller gang? Now you will have to worry about logistically keeping that boosting ship alive where as the larger gang will have less trouble due to being able to devote logistics towards that where as the smaller gang is not due to size.

You are essentially forcing one type of pvp when you change things so drastically like this.


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Either way I know some people will appreciate my opinion and some people wont.

I just feel that links as they are are fine, there was a time when they were OP and that was when they were unabled to be scanned down but that was changed many moons ago.

Aye, it would be the perfect ninja nerf to WH PvE.

The thing is the majority of us in Wh space are here because of PVP we pvp with each other and take advantage of the many nullsecs/lowsecs that connect to us to pvp in.

The PvE funds our ability to pvp but we have to commit billions upon billions to running a single site its not easy and if all of a sudden we need to have an on grid boosting alt it will completely destroy the way sites are run.

Its not the main reason im against on grid boosting but I like to flesh out all possible things that would be affected and just like you said even K space incursions will be affected.

soooooo.... bring an ewar ship? Even a keres would make wonders here


come on, let's get a bit serious on this: 1vs1's are, pretty much, FOR TEH HONOUR, and they stop being 1vs1 as soon as someone boosts.

In extension, all this talk reeks of people expecting "fair fights", which is to, bluntly, expecting someone to **** up, because nobody with even a stint of intelligence will bring a knife to a freakin' nuclear war.

If a gang comes around in 5 frigates, should I counter it with 5 frigates? No, I counter it with everybody available in their best ships so that I can smash the ******* bugs for thinking I would fight in their terms.