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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-06-09 15:23:21 UTC
I can't disagree with the OP, regardless of his motivation for the post. I've seen plenty of good - if somewhat heated - discussion threads have half or more of their pages moderated out of existence by hamfisted ISDs.

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#22 - 2014-06-09 15:23:25 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
stop making **** threads and there won't be need for them to be locked


In ure narrow mind it is a **** thread... but he does makes a valid point. Answer that u come With it often enough to get mods to Close them.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-06-09 15:23:38 UTC
This thread is going places.
DrSmegma
Smegma United
#24 - 2014-06-09 15:24:00 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
CCP show no will to fix it, they just oil up a machinery thats so broken it cant be fixed...

This is corporate policy for CCP.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#25 - 2014-06-09 15:24:37 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
yay in before Lock :D


But ure actually true... Mods here aint doing their job correctly.... i made a post about it, it got closed, so i sent a ticket about it and they just ignores the problem completly... CCP show no will to fix it, they just oil up a machinery thats so broken it cant be fixed...

The mods are the result of angry People that got their threads closed so many times and they are now on the revenge.



your thead was a rant about forum moderation. what did you expect.
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#26 - 2014-06-09 15:26:22 UTC
Do not question your God's judgement, mortal.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 

Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#27 - 2014-06-09 15:26:47 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
What's wrong with redundant rants that have been said time and time again getting locked?

Petitions and the forums are not the same thing, either.

Lockhammer happens when people break the rules. Most of us have no problem attempting to follow the rules.


If u read all the rules, u will understand that the rules actually are made to revoke users rights to come With toughts, views and complains. Rarely will a post thats negative to CCP in general, stay open..... which Points out the problem within the forum.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#28 - 2014-06-09 15:27:56 UTC
obligatory IB4L
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#29 - 2014-06-09 15:28:28 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
yay in before Lock :D


But ure actually true... Mods here aint doing their job correctly.... i made a post about it, it got closed, so i sent a ticket about it and they just ignores the problem completly... CCP show no will to fix it, they just oil up a machinery thats so broken it cant be fixed...

The mods are the result of angry People that got their threads closed so many times and they are now on the revenge.



your thead was a rant about forum moderation. what did you expect.



in many eyes it was rant, but still it Points out a problem that most here dont care about, but is essential for free Speech.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#30 - 2014-06-09 15:29:11 UTC
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#31 - 2014-06-09 15:29:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Erica Dusette
Magnus Orly wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
Honestly, when looking at other communities I've played or worked in (......) I think we're afforded an enormous amount of freedom and leniency.


Maybe it used to be like that....but not anymore it seems....not in the forums at least.....


I shitpost a lot but am still smart enough to know how to interpret the rules and am often left very surprised that I've gotten away with some of the cheeky stuff I've posted at times. Likewise with many, many posts and threads I see by others. So in my experience I have to completely disagree with you.

Personally I've found it's very common for people to be left wondering why their threads were closed on forums, even when a mod posts a reason. More than over-modding it's usually a case of users not fully understanding the rules or being able to apply them to their own posts to interpret why they were against the rules or just "delete-worthy" and once it's explained to them they usually come to agree. We can't mail ISDs here and talk with them, so that makes this part of communication between us very difficult. Our only option is the petitions and well ... yeah ...

Some days, like today (I did a 'woah' when I saw GD this morning) you see a lot of locked threads. It's easy to think that the forum has been over-modded, but the truth is that it's actually just been over-shat in by users that day. Lol

Anyway.... inb4 etc

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
If u read all the rules, u will understand that the rules actually are made to revoke users rights to come With toughts, views and complains. Rarely will a post thats negative to CCP in general, stay open..... which Points out the problem within the forum.

You have no rights, other than the ones you're given. Forums like this aren't a public place, they're private property basically. We agreed and digitally-signed our names in agreement of that when we began.

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KnowUsByTheDead
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#32 - 2014-06-09 15:29:38 UTC
To the OP and others rushing to his defense...

The reason why it is this way, is any sign that dissent picks up, means a probable drop in sub numbers, a la post-Incarna.

So you have to paint CCP in a positive light.

You have to show them with the right amount of psssshhhhhhhh, razzle-dazzle, bippity-bop, shoop-d-shoop.

It's like that old song by Barry Mann...

"Who put the bomp
In the bomp bah bomp bah bomp
Who put the ram
In the rama lama ding dong

Who put the bop
In the bop shoo bop shoo bop
Who put the dip
In the dip da dip da dip

Who was that man, I'd like to shake his hand"


Those men?

Those men were CCP.*








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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#33 - 2014-06-09 15:33:48 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:

So now it is time to make this thread have some content.


Agreed.

Question: Is posting EvEmails still against forum rules?

Some of my fanmail should be seen to be believed but I dont have enough to make a blog of it yet



accordingly to the rules, u cant publishise mailreplies, but u can publishise what u Write. Tickets also falls under that rule, which actually leaves CCP defendless if a person wants to go Public With his replies. He/She can go Public With everything in a ticket, except the CCP response.... which creates a little fun aspect of it :D
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#34 - 2014-06-09 15:33:57 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#35 - 2014-06-09 15:34:10 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
in many eyes it was rant, but still it Points out a problem that most here dont care about, but is essential for free Speech.

you are soo thoroughly concussed by the wrong end of this particular stick that explaining it further would be a waste of both our time.


o7
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#36 - 2014-06-09 15:36:59 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
tiberiusric wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
stop making **** threads and there won't be need for them to be locked


perhaps you completely missed the point...What?

The point is that your thread is both rule breaking and above all shite. Hence it will get locked, and deservedly so.

As others have said, no content of any worth has been lost by the ISD folks doing their job.



According to rules, its against forum rules to discuss the fails that mods do... and how the rules actullay forces mods to do.


Ergo the thread is point on, but will be locked as fast a mod sees it... until then, we can keep it going.
Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#37 - 2014-06-09 15:37:51 UTC
I, for one, find that the forum mods are wise, restrained, and sexually attractive. I don't even mind when ISD Ezwal snips curse words out of my sentences that have already been censored by the profanity filter.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#38 - 2014-06-09 15:40:23 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
What's wrong with redundant rants that have been said time and time again getting locked?

Petitions and the forums are not the same thing, either.

Lockhammer happens when people break the rules. Most of us have no problem attempting to follow the rules.


If u read all the rules, u will understand that the rules actually are made to revoke users rights to come With toughts, views and complains. Rarely will a post thats negative to CCP in general, stay open..... which Points out the problem within the forum.


Learn to ******* speak english, you ******** half breed

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#39 - 2014-06-09 15:41:55 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
in many eyes it was rant, but still it Points out a problem that most here dont care about, but is essential for free Speech.

you are soo thoroughly concussed by the wrong end of this particular stick that explaining it further would be a waste of both our time.


o7



U could try explain it from here to the moon and still not be able to change my point of view on this matter... and i love u still if u think im concussed ;D
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#40 - 2014-06-09 15:43:44 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
What's wrong with redundant rants that have been said time and time again getting locked?

Petitions and the forums are not the same thing, either.

Lockhammer happens when people break the rules. Most of us have no problem attempting to follow the rules.


If u read all the rules, u will understand that the rules actually are made to revoke users rights to come With toughts, views and complains. Rarely will a post thats negative to CCP in general, stay open..... which Points out the problem within the forum.


Learn to ******* speak english, you ******** half breed



Awwww, u feel insulted cuz i dont Write perfectly English?? aint u lovebale creature :D

PS. such comments like u made there, is a prime example how u get any threads closed....
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