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What Should I Use To Kill Sleepers In WH?

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Peonza Chan
Gloryhole Initiative
HISPANIA.
#161 - 2015-04-14 08:32:05 UTC
We actually use RR-Domi to run sites, we need 2 for C3 and 3 for C4, usually bring bonus but is not required. One of the domis fits a painter to call targets, other domis can fit a point or another omni. Pretty standard.

[Dominix, RR-PVE]

Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Large 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Large 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Large 'Solace' Remote Armor Repairer
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Remote Repair Augmentor I
Large Egress Port Maximizer I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I

Curator II x5
Garde II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Cap Booster 800 x15
Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1


Right now we are looking for some composition that max our DPS as much as possible without having to field marauders or such. We have usually 5 members running sites, so bringing 2 guardians halves our dps to 3 ships. I have seen some interesting proposals, specially from Trinkets friend. I'm actually interested in the following:

Trinkets friend wrote:
SVIPULSAR

C4 sites in Svipuls.



Could you link the fits used there?
Also, do you think it works outside a Pulsar?
umnikar
Fishbone Industries
#162 - 2015-04-14 13:12:59 UTC
C4 with proper range.

High power
1x Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
3x Large Remote Armor Repairer II
2x Drone Link Augmentor II

Medium power
1x Cap Recharger II
1x Large Capacitor Battery II
1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
1x Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
1x Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Low power
1x Damage Control II
2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1x 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
3x Drone Damage Amplifier II

Rig Slot
1x Large Anti-Explosive Pump I
1x Large Remote Repair Augmentor I
1x Large Egress Port Maximizer I

Charges
2x Tracking Speed Script
8x Navy Cap Booster 800
2x Optimal Range Script

Drones
10x Hobgoblin II
5x Garde II
5x Curator II

Might get squishy sometimes if unlucky with aggro, but overheat some cycles and it will be fine. Can change a dda for a 2nd plate as well.
Mids have some options for point or whatever.
umnikar
Fishbone Industries
#163 - 2015-04-14 13:32:29 UTC
Peonza Chan wrote:

Right now we are looking for some composition that max our DPS as much as possible without having to field marauders or such. We have usually 5 members running sites, so bringing 2 guardians halves our dps to 3 ships. I have seen some interesting proposals, specially from Trinkets friend. I'm actually interested in the following:


2 Domis do the tank. With +3 DPS you clear **** in no time.
Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
Evil Monkies Incorporated
#164 - 2015-04-14 13:38:59 UTC
If you want faster sleeper melting you can add webbing target painting bonused loki/hugin but recons are somewhat squishy.
Ozz Burtus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#165 - 2015-04-14 14:08:16 UTC
Peonza Chan wrote:

Right now we are looking for some composition that max our DPS as much as possible without having to field marauders or such. We have usually 5 members running sites, so bringing 2 guardians halves our dps to 3 ships. I have seen some interesting proposals, specially from Trinkets friend.


Bring one RR BS and one guardian or basi, the rest can be DPS, get your logi orbiting the BS with the cap bounce going. Just make sure any low-skill pilots have sufficient EHP to survive an aggro switch. That saves you losing a DPS ship and might give you some High slots on your RR BS to play with.

Typically if you get jumped, all you lose is the logi-bs combo because everything else can be at range due to the rep range bonus.

Bubbling RR BS fleets is fun.

Ozz
Fairwell Boirelle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2015-04-14 20:52:20 UTC
Hey folks, pretty new to WH space. Our corp is operating in c1/c2 sites. I have read a lot of the posts, other posts, older posts on different websites and so on. Everything says to fly a drake. What I am really getting at is how much does it matter (may be a stupiud question) but I want to fly a brutix, will I be hindered that much?

Here is the fit


Brutix

200mm Prototype Gauss Gun
200mm Prototype Gauss Gun
200mm Prototype Gauss Gun
200mm Prototype Gauss Gun
200mm Prototype Gauss Gun
200mm Prototype Gauss Gun

Med Slots
Experimental 10mn Afterburner 1
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Optical Tracking Computer I with Tracking Speed Script

Medium 'Accommodation' Vestiment Reconstructer I
Adaptive nano plating II
Adaptive Nano plating II
Magnetic Field Stabalizer II
Magnetic Field Stabalizer II
Damage Control II

Rigs
Medium Semiconductor memory cell I
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I

5x Hobgoblin II

Any suggestions, You wont hurt my feelings. Thanks
Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
Rate My Ticks
#167 - 2015-04-14 22:31:12 UTC
If you want help the least you could do is post copy pastable fits to throw into pyfa/eft Roll

Anyways Brutix looks fine only thing i'd be concerned about is tank and range. Being able to apply dps at range can really cut down time in site. I think you'll have issues keeping dps manageable since you're going to be webbed down from frigs waiting for drones to chew through them while you hit cruisers/bs with rails. But then again its been years since I've run c2 sites so prove me wrong P
Fairwell Boirelle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#168 - 2015-04-14 23:18:37 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
If you want help the least you could do is post copy pastable fits to throw into pyfa/eft Roll

Anyways Brutix looks fine only thing i'd be concerned about is tank and range. Being able to apply dps at range can really cut down time in site. I think you'll have issues keeping dps manageable since you're going to be webbed down from frigs waiting for drones to chew through them while you hit cruisers/bs with rails. But then again its been years since I've run c2 sites so prove me wrong P



I appreciate the reply. In regards to pyfa/eft... I have no idea what that is. If I did I would have made it easier. haha

I am just trying to figure something out for the future. It seems everyone I come across flies caldari. I am looking into more Minmitar or Gallente.
Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
Rate My Ticks
#169 - 2015-04-14 23:46:46 UTC
I apologize in advance if you end up being a fitting junky like me but google that ****. It's a must have for Eve.

Pyfa looks nicer and has better interface imo (the one I prefer)
EFT is more excel spreadsheet and generally gets updated faster then pyfa
Both are very well done fitting tools.
helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#170 - 2015-04-23 01:41:14 UTC
If Im piloting a battleship and using a Heavy NOS

If I use the NOS on a sleeper Frigate do I get the full transfer amount (cause sleepers have infinite cap) or do I only get a small/none amount of cap cause they are frigs ? (and im in a battleship)

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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
#171 - 2015-04-23 22:27:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Damjan Fox
The Gila works really well in C3 sites, too.


[Gila, Passive Omni]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

'Augmented' Hammerhead x2


This passive fit has ~600 DPS and ~930 EHP/s omni tank. It needs a 1%-Cpu implant though. (with all V)
It can tank every C3 (combat) site. Fortunately, the sites, where you need the invul, don't have neuts, where there are neuts, you don't need the invul. So you don't have to worry about your cap.
With the drone link augmentor nothing will be out of range, no prop mod needed.
If you bring a mobile depot you can switch out modules on the fly to get more DPS where less tank is needed. You could bring some warp core stabs too, just in case someone lands on you Big smile.

The ship and the fitting is around 380mil total.
Orange Aideron
Singularity Surfers
#172 - 2015-05-13 08:15:59 UTC
Just a quick note on the gila, you really need all V's to fly, because if you get below peak recharge (~30%) it drops off A LOT.

But good fit for a cool broken, totally crazy ship :)
Sespria Secantus
Doomheim
#173 - 2015-06-02 04:11:05 UTC
Damjan Fox wrote:
The Gila works really well in C3 sites, too.


[Gila, Passive Omni]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

'Augmented' Hammerhead x2


This passive fit has ~600 DPS and ~930 EHP/s omni tank. It needs a 1%-Cpu implant though. (with all V)
It can tank every C3 (combat) site. Fortunately, the sites, where you need the invul, don't have neuts, where there are neuts, you don't need the invul. So you don't have to worry about your cap.
With the drone link augmentor nothing will be out of range, no prop mod needed.
If you bring a mobile depot you can switch out modules on the fly to get more DPS where less tank is needed. You could bring some warp core stabs too, just in case someone lands on you Big smile.

The ship and the fitting is around 380mil total.


How do you keep aggro off your drones?
Sespria Secantus
Doomheim
#174 - 2015-06-02 04:24:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Sespria Secantus
Hi everyone, I currently run level 4 missions in 2 armor tanked NM's and was thinking of doing Lev 5's but decided it wasn't worth it. Incursions wait time is to long so that leaves me leaning towards C3/C4 wormholes. In addition to the 2 NM's I have a cloaky scanner/salvager and a armor/skirm link boosting alt that would do the scouting. bookmarkings, etc.. Before starting I wanted to get some feedback before plunging into a very unpleasant death so first I wanted to know if just one of my NM's can do C3/C4 without issues and second how do I go about safely moving this ship in/ out of those WH's. Or is it better to use a different ship?

Highs
4x Tachyon Beam Laser II with NavyMulti ~ 868 dps @ 42+41
2x Drone link Augmentor II

Mids
1x Large Micro Jump Drive
Gist X-Type 100MN AB ~ 973m/s
2x Tracking Computer II ~ optimal range script
3x Cap Recharger II

Lows
1x DCU II
2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
2x Heat Sink II
1x True Sansha Large Armor Repairer

Rigs
1x Large CCC II
2x Large CCC

Drones
5x Hammerheads II ~ 144 dps
5x Warriors II ~ 80 dps
Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
Rate My Ticks
#175 - 2015-06-03 00:18:04 UTC
It sounds like your talking about wh diving with 2 nightmares. That's like every scouts wetdream. Get some RR domis. That way if you get caught you can atleast put up a good fight.
Sespria Secantus
Doomheim
#176 - 2015-06-03 11:02:43 UTC
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
It sounds like your talking about wh diving with 2 nightmares. That's like every scouts wetdream. Get some RR domis. That way if you get caught you can atleast put up a good fight.


So it seems, thanks Aquila for the response. I have 2 other chars trained for the RR domis, but I'm having trouble using them properly (nearly lost one doing level 4's). I need a session in using the RR domis for c3 wormholes. Know anyone offering this course?

I wanted to use the NM's for their simplicity but like you said they're an easy gank target, so what about 1 armor linked Paladin with mobile depot and a cloaky Pilgrim just in case I get jummped on by a hero tackler?
Orange Aideron
Singularity Surfers
#177 - 2015-06-03 11:16:32 UTC
Sespria Secantus wrote:
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
It sounds like your talking about wh diving with 2 nightmares. That's like every scouts wetdream. Get some RR domis. That way if you get caught you can atleast put up a good fight.


So it seems, thanks Aquila for the response. I have 2 other chars trained for the RR domis, but I'm having trouble using them properly (nearly lost one doing level 4's). I need a session in using the RR domis for c3 wormholes. Know anyone offering this course?

I wanted to use the NM's for their simplicity but like you said they're an easy gank target, so what about 1 armor linked Paladin with mobile depot and a cloaky Pilgrim just in case I get jummped on by a hero tackler?


http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpace
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity

GET SiSi
scan/scout the wh you need
lookup the site in eve-survival
rinse/repeat

Orange Aideron
Singularity Surfers
#178 - 2015-06-03 11:19:50 UTC
helana Tsero wrote:
If Im piloting a battleship and using a Heavy NOS

If I use the NOS on a sleeper Frigate do I get the full transfer amount (cause sleepers have infinite cap) or do I only get a small/none amount of cap cause they are frigs ? (and im in a battleship)


When I use NOS its usually under neut pressure, it does feel like its the whole amount in practice.

*that or it makes my car go really really fast Roll
Sespria Secantus
Doomheim
#179 - 2015-06-03 12:29:17 UTC
Orange Aideron wrote:
Sespria Secantus wrote:
Aquila Sagitta wrote:
It sounds like your talking about wh diving with 2 nightmares. That's like every scouts wetdream. Get some RR domis. That way if you get caught you can atleast put up a good fight.


So it seems, thanks Aquila for the response. I have 2 other chars trained for the RR domis, but I'm having trouble using them properly (nearly lost one doing level 4's). I need a session in using the RR domis for c3 wormholes. Know anyone offering this course?

I wanted to use the NM's for their simplicity but like you said they're an easy gank target, so what about 1 armor linked Paladin with mobile depot and a cloaky Pilgrim just in case I get jummped on by a hero tackler?


http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpace
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity

GET SiSi
scan/scout the wh you need
lookup the site in eve-survival
rinse/repeat



Does it interfere with Tranquility?
Aquila Sagitta
Black Dragon Elite
Rate My Ticks
#180 - 2015-06-03 21:33:52 UTC
Not unless you overwrite your tranquility folder X