EVE General Discussion

Just wondering if we could maybe get a running view of the 6 week patches.

We already know the next one will be the industrial one, but thats only like 4-5 weeks away now.

Would love to know the road map for some of the bigger stuff so, at least I could look ahead and provide feed back on the more current things as they develop.

Like is the patch 11 weeks away going to focus on Planetary Infrastructure or missions or . . .

Also, I don't expect anything to be carved into stone for these patches.

Yep, it was covered for the next or so.

I dont have the links right now, but will go look.

EDIT:

Starts at 15:57 in the keynote:

http://youtu.be/k07Uu7qUEa0

Please. These people could barely give a roadmap for what they were looking to accomplish every six months; you can't expect them to devote any more time to detailing their plans now that they'll be dropping 'content' every month and a half.

OP, TBA the project just launched, patients... =\

Way to be rude and derail the thread, people.
*picard facepalm.

I wonder if they even have a game design document (or plural) or just some random assortment of sticky notes, paper scraps, napkins or even just go from vague concepts they have in their minds. I know documentation is a annoying drag when you want to get to work right now, but it really, really helps to stay on track and identify potential issues from the get go and not when the server crashes.

It's hard to get organized when you are constantly hung over.

Just sayin.

Love. Should be an in game item.

where are you two getting these numbers? When they moved the industry features form kronos to Crius they said its coming july 22nd. So where are you getting aug 19th?

its even in the first link about crius in F&I... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4526547#post4526547

Except you don;t quite grasp what the new concept is. So, lets see if i can explain.

Originally Eve Worked like this: they set a theme for an expansion, then they set up a Jesus feature, and worked in other features related to that. Then started work. Then they set a date to release it all and kept going. So, lets go with Planetary Interaction as an example. They set the date for, lets do Dec 1st. They need to do thing so players can interact with planets and they want to lay the ground work for dust. So they pull up all there ideas and start working. As they work, they begin to see that they can;t do idea a and b due to code limits form older features. Then they see that can;t do c because they need more time. then it starts getting closer and they realize they can't do d or e because it will take too long, so what we get is f g and h. with a promise to do a, b, c, d, and e later. So the PI expansion is launched. And the stuff that is left gets set for pi 2. patch in a few weeks. But at the same time, they start work for the next expansion, walking in stations, and begin to assign teams to do that, while a small team fixes the bugs in pi, but never finished the other features. So the cycle starts all over again.

The new release cycle, and the new thinking of CCP where they have no 'Jesus feature' works like this: Your team is assigned to work on finishing PI. they want to get it out 'when its done' Your team guesses it will take 6 weeks. So you start. During that time you realize it will take 6 months. So your teams keeps working on that. Another team working on little things, get 20 things done in 3 weeks, then moved on to something else. another team finished there project in 6 weeks. And another takes 2 months. Now the old way, all these would be rolled into an expansion in 6 months, so the stuff that was done early, they would either be twiddling there thumbs for things that fit into he new expansion, or join other teams to help. But with the new model, the teams done in 6 weeks, get there stuff in the next release and they move on to other projects. The guys who need four months can get all four months, and plug it into a release in four months. The guy who needed 6 months, when the next expansion is out in 4, gets his full 6 months. His team doesn;t need to scrap months of work cause it won;t be ready on time. So the work is finished and completed, and released in the next window.

The new cycle, in theory will give developers more flexibility to get features done. As opposed to cutting what won't be done and leaving it for 'we will finish this soon'

and the whole 'needs more pssssh' is just marketing, and those guys usually have no idea what they are talking about. Happens in every company. Layoffs happen, esp if the focus is going in a direction that no longer needs the other divisions.

Just because Toyota decides to stop making the yaris and focus on the Prius doesn't mean Toyota is in trouble, it just means the yaris is not viable. So they lay off the yaris team, after they moved who they could to the Prius project.