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Falkor Atreyu Corp Spy

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Popcorn Nom-Nom
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-06-06 18:13:39 UTC
Falkor Atreyu joined our corp and upon gaining access to our intel channels and our blues channels, leaked information to a third party.

Some of the things leaked were:

- Corp blues list.
- Corp POS locations.
- Fleet movements.
- Location and times of POS bashing.

He joins under the rouse of a new player, although he knows far too much to be a new player.

We feel that he may have also tried to steal from us if he had had the opportunity.

Do not recruit under any circumstance.
Damon Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-06-06 18:53:34 UTC
the amount of evidence you provided surely means he's guilty!
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#3 - 2014-06-06 19:21:26 UTC
All these Corp Thefts... it's like a Never-Ending Story.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2014-06-06 19:46:34 UTC
How do you spy on an NPC corp?

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University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-06-06 21:45:35 UTC
An NPC corp alt reporting another character for being a corp spy. Isn't it more likely you were kicked after releasing the listed information?

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The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2014-06-06 21:49:42 UTC
This thread cant repel proof of that magnitude!





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#7 - 2014-06-06 22:08:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
Seems like really sensitive information, that was leaked.
Good job catching the spy before he could leak a full member list of your Corp as well....

Edit: After checking that spies´ Corp History, I must assume the Corp in question is Vicis Inter Astrum [-OAS-].
I particularly like the "Vicis is recruiting! We accept pilots of all skill levels and interests. Rather than using SP or ISK as a measure of pilot worth, Vicis looks for activity, ambition and loyalty."-part in the Corp description....

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Je suis Berlin // Fort Lauderdale // London // St. Petersburg // Stockholm

Je suis [?]

Isabela Valentine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-06-06 22:27:14 UTC
I don't see why you're so afraid of posting with your main. I'll echo the concerns of others that have already posted. This is nothing new. Just don't give a newbie access to sensitive information. Intel channels are rife with spies and everyone knows that which is why you dont report blue movements or fleets forming.
Falkor Atreyu
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-06-06 23:04:30 UTC
To the person who convo'd me in game: Thank you.

---

In reply to... well whatever the **** this is... are you kidding me??

I'm two months into the game and thought I had found the right corp, Vicis Inter Astrum. Two days ago I log on only to find out they have removed me from the corp without reason.

I tried for ages to get a straight answer out of you and also attempted to talk this over with you, yet you wouldn't talk to me.

This is the mail I sent to the CEO:

From: Falkor Atreyu
Sent: 2014.06.05 10:55
To: (name removed)

I thought I was fitting in okay with you guys? Not sure why I have been removed though. (name removed) suggested I mail you and find out what has happened.

I'm a little bit confused over the whole situation to be honest.

I logged in this morning to find (name removed) has removed me from the corporation. There was no reason given, just a "your services are no longer required" mail.
I have been in the corp for a month (ish) and I thought I was getting along fine? I have learnt loads and been able to hone my skills. Your corp members have taught me loads: About D-Scan, about PvP (I never thought I would engjoy it as much as I am), about POS bashes. Hell I was even telling my RL mates what a great game this was because I had found an awesome group of people to fly with.

Not to mention all my assets have been in Hiremir for the duration of the war. If you guys really dont want me in the corporation I'm not sure how I will get out?

I hope this is just a mis-understanding and that we can sort this. You yourself told me you were a good, no drama group and that is what I have found you to be.

I just really want to know what (if anything) I have done wrong so that I can change it and hopefully come back into the corp?

I appreciate your correspondence, and hope we can sort this out. I thought I was fitting in quite well.



I recieved the following mail from the CEO:

"Hey Falkor,

You seem a fun guy to fly with and I'm glad you've learned a lot during your time with us. The month that you've spent with us so far was a trial period for us as well. Pepbill's decision stands, though I'm happy to make arrangements with you as to moving assets safely back to empire.

This game is tons of fun and you should definitely seek the right group to enjoy it. Unfortunately, the sandbox also lends itself easily to people who enjoy harrassing other players to varying degrees, so you'll find many players around new eden to be justifiably paranoid. Take the skills you've learned and find the corp that's right for you - and note that the right fit may take some searching for both parties.

Best of luck in your future endeavors."



Upon further correspondence I got told that I would be helped get my stuff out and there was no hard feelings and that I was not being accused of anything.
I was told that you wished me luck in eve and getting into other corps.

I have done bugger all wrong and I am two months into this game. Trying to get along and trying to learn. How the hell am I supposed to get into other groups and learn/ have fun / do whatever now?

Congratulations Vicis Inter Astrum for ******* up a new player to this game...



I don't want to have to start over with a new character, I want to be able to use the character name I have used for other games and you have ruined any chance of people even trusting me. Thank you very ******* much.

Considering I am ex military, being accused of leaking intel and fleet compositions etc etc that's actually insulting.

So much for not burning bridges.
Isabela Valentine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-06-06 23:19:37 UTC
I wouldn't sweat it dude. There's no proof so I don't think people are going to care. GL with finding a corp.
Falkor Atreyu
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-06-06 23:25:32 UTC
Isabela, cheers, but it's still insulting to be kicked and accused of something I never did.

They put on a fake face and tell me "It's nothing I've done" and then create a new profile to ***** about me behind my back on the forums. Part of me wishes I had stole from them.

Foamingjetty
Cro-Magnons
#12 - 2014-06-07 05:10:49 UTC
Hi, I'm Foamingjetty, the CEO of Vicis Inter Astrum.

Smart corps don't base their recruiting decisions on 0-day alt posts, much less under the "Crime and Punishment" banner. Neither I nor my directors would care to make such a post here either. So I'll reiterate Isabela's point that nobody's going to care.

The claimed list of "leaks" is indeed bizarre, as blues lists, fleet movements and the occasional pos bash have not been disrupted. And there are no thefts because we don't leave things lying around. We did decide to cut Falkor, for reasons I'm happy to share with future CEOs who ask.

Falkor himself pointed me at this thread but I dislike drama, so I'll post here exactly once. If he is a legitimate player then it's in his interest to find employment away from the uncertainty he currently faces. Increasing the amount of "look at me" posts doesn't help in any possible future.

Fly saucy.

Falkor Atreyu
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-06-07 08:52:06 UTC
Okay, well I guess a "thanks for that" is in order. But look at it from my point of view. There is only yourself (meaning Vicis and your Blues) that know anything about me being dismissed and this thread has been crated a day after I have been dismissed.

But thanks for backing me up here.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#14 - 2014-06-07 11:05:05 UTC
Posting just to give the OP a +1 for that avatar. Lol

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Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#15 - 2014-06-07 11:09:47 UTC
Falkor Atreyu wrote:
Okay, well I guess a "thanks for that" is in order. But look at it from my point of view. There is only yourself (meaning Vicis and your Blues) that know anything about me being dismissed and this thread has been crated a day after I have been dismissed.

But thanks for backing me up here.



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Codename-47
Avocado Cartel
#16 - 2014-06-07 16:34:52 UTC
oh my gawd people spy and play the metagame?

Crazy, OP needs to learn to do a full screen of recruits.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#17 - 2014-06-08 14:49:59 UTC
Falkor, I don't think you lost much being kicked by this corp, TBH.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-06-09 18:26:34 UTC
Wait, what? We weren't bs-ing when claiming that hes innocent? My entire world has been turned upside down. Falkor Atreyu, hit me up in game if you're having trouble finding a corp.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-06-09 22:22:26 UTC
If your old CEO says you're good to go, most recruiters will take that over the word of an anonymous forum alt. Obviously someone is butt hurt about something you said or did and is trying to make you look bad. No one will believe them. You'll be fine.

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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2014-06-10 15:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
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Character not found.

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Did a search on Doomheim.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=search&search=Doomheim&forumID=252

Was unironically linked to the Tribal Band renter scam drama. OP success.

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