EVE New Citizens Q&A

Er... so now that you're no longer able to get paid for nothing more than watching a timer tick down for ~20 minutes, you require a non-boring source of income?

Wait, you didn't consider LP farming to be boring? If you thought that was fun, maybe try literally anything else (except mining or hauling). You won't be disappointed.

Ok, that was unhelpful, let me try again.

Look, PVE, mining and industry, they are all incredibly boring. Any form of farming for isk is going to suck, it's the unfortunate truth. If you really want to make isk and have fun at the same time, your only real option is to take that isk from other players who would probably rather you didn't. Scamming, suicide ganking, piracy, corporate theft, and if you are good enough, mercenary contracts too..

So is plexing under any circumstances farming?

I don't understand the concept at work here. If I, as a new player, want to be in a position to engage in PvP and make enough ISK to do that at the same time, is there no option aside from piracy? That seems absurd to me.

And to be clear, sitting on plexes was boring as all get out when no one would show up. But at least I was in a PvP area, and making enough ISK to pay for keeping me there.

Oh well, at least some people were able to pad their killboards before I realized how much of a joke this "game" is.

Thanks for your replies all.

Nope, I'll biomass all my stuff.

No sense giving this community any hand outs. Not like you deserve it.

If you want automagic money, that's not going to happen. The fact that earning money isn't a laugh-riot is a large part of what gives PvP in Eve meaning: when you lose something, you've actually lost a resource that will require at least a modicum of effort to replace.




There are pretty much limitless ways to make ISK. Hell, in low sec, just popping the occasional clone soldier in .2 or .1 will net you a quick 20-30m, and those guys are far from rare. Finding one of the new Mordus spawns would also net you a pretty penny, especially right now, while the price is still inflated by their newness.

You could also figure out how to adjust to the plex changes and then continue doing that and, as I mentioned before, flying cheaper ships that are more suited to your income level will also obviously help keep you in ISK.

You could do PI while you're running your other stuff. P1 extraction planets pay decently well considering the active time investment is minimal (15 minutes per day, an hour or so once a week moving goods around).

You could do exploration.

Nullsec relic sites pay between 20M and 100M each without hitting the BPC lottery. Nullsec data sites pay 10M to 30M or so.

Combat sites can pay out very well, but take a bit of time shooting red crosses, and the big payouts are sort of lottery based.

You could daytrip into C1 to C3 wormholes, depending on your skills. Combat anoms pay between 15M and 50M and take about 20 minutes plus salvage time.

All of them (IMO) are much more engaging than missions or mining.

I'm only chiming in because I used to do high-sec wardecs, nullbearing, wspace even, and now all I do for income is plex and pew. Do I get by? Yes. Am I space rich? No. The space rich guys in militia all devote many hours to PvE activities, some of which are inaccessible to a newer player and all of which are invariably boring for everyone.

I find PvE incredibly boring so I avoid it as much as possible, but the price I pay for that is having to fly T1 hulls 95% of the time because I can't afford to be replacing T2 hulls often. What I get from it, though, is the ability to find a fight and earn enough LP to pay for a fitted frigate even when I only have fifteen minutes to play.

Having said that, EvE is a microcosm of real life in the sense that you need patience if you want to reap the greatest rewards, and that applies to both PvE and PvP. I've wasted countless hours on "PvP" activities like roaming with a fleet just to realize that space is dead. On the flipside, I've gotten extremely lucky sometimes on the rare occasion I PvE and once scored 100m in Clone Soldier tags in only ten minutes running through the belts in my home system.

So just try to enjoy the little things while waiting on the big fun to come along. Get in comms with local militia pilots and you'll find that plexing becomes a lot more enjoyable when you have pilots nearby to depend on for intel and help when a hostile gang suddenly shows up at your gate. Take the game as it comes and you'll have fun, try and force it and you'll just build up a lot of frustration.

Thank you for your reply. Although I am dubious about my ability to complete combat sites, I will give it a go. Hopefully there is some entertainment there.

My skills are not ready for wormholes I suspect, but since I lose ships anyway, not like trying is going to hurt.

Get friends? And there's no reason something like a T1 cruiser has to represent a massive risk. If you pay attention to local and are diligent with your d-scan, it's still pretty easy to avoid most engagements in something cruiser sized. Your only real danger is going to come from gate camps - once you get one out into low, it shouldn't be too much of a risk. Stationless .1 systems are great places to pop clone soldiers - odds are you'll be the only person in the system.




If you say so. I haven't bumped into one yet, but I'm not expecting them to be particularly more dangerous than any other low sec NPC, which is to say, "Not very".




You really don't need to, but you do need to stop making excuses for why you can't do anything.