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Procurer/Skiffs are imbalanced now vs the other barges.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#101 - 2014-06-06 13:22:24 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
So this is just a whinethread by a noob ganker?
Going by their only post outside this thread, it's a butt hurt miner that's a trifle miffed about the Mackinaw/Hulk not being able to fit a BS tank and max yield.

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Solecist Project
#102 - 2014-06-06 13:28:58 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
So this is just a whinethread by a noob ganker?
Going by their only post outside this thread, it's a butt hurt miner that's a trifle miffed about the Mackinaw/Hulk not being able to fit a BS tank and max yield.
Stupid humans.

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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#103 - 2014-06-06 13:43:17 UTC
I was always under the impression that the Procurer/Skiff had better yield because of the role bonuses...

[Procurer, Procurer]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Survey Scanner II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II

Strip Miner I

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Hornet I x5
Salvage Drone I x5
Mobile Tractor Unit x1


With the MTU, you're good for about an hour of mining. Dock up, pull out a Tayra and scoop the MTU afterwards.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#104 - 2014-06-06 13:46:37 UTC
Brian Harrelstein wrote:

With the MTU, you're good for about an hour of mining. Dock up, pull out a Tayra and scoop the MTU afterwards.


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Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
#105 - 2014-06-06 15:12:30 UTC
Magnus Orly wrote:
Nopatience wrote:
Procurer/Skiffs are imbalanced now vs the other barges.


Statistics from last fanfest:

Mining volume for barges and exhumers:

37% - Retriever
29% - Mackinaw
17% - Hulk
7% - Covetor
6% - Procurer
4% - Skiff

This shows to what extent the different barges are used I guessed. So what one can say is that Procurer and Skiff definately haven't been overpowered until now at least. Sure...now they did get some small buffs but that just might get them to be used more by players.

http://imgur.com/r1gNQ5O


Procurers were flown more before the 3rd June changes where more ganking was taking place.

Post 3rd June changes I think it could be argued that the base EHP values on the Hulk could/should be increased a bit more.

I also would say personally that the build cost for the Procurer should increased to maybe the price of a T1 battleship as it can fit the tank/EHP of a Battleship. I think, unless I am mistaken, that a Procurer costs less than a Retriever which obviously isn't correct.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#106 - 2014-06-06 15:14:38 UTC
Bethan Le Troix wrote:


Procurers were flown more before the 3rd June changes where more ganking was taking place.

Post 3rd June changes I think it could be argued that the base EHP values on the Hulk could/should be increased a bit more.

I also would say personally that the build cost for the Procurer should increased to maybe the price of a T1 battleship as it can fit the tank/EHP of a Battleship. I think, unless I am mistaken, that a Procurer costs less than a Retriever which obviously isn't correct.


Yeah it should cost the same as a Battleship because it outputs 1000 Dps too Roll

And the cost is determined by the market

More people want Rets, so Rets cost more

Simples

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2014-06-06 20:23:05 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
And the cost is determined by the market

not really. For T1/T2 ships base cost is based on build requirements + BPC stuff. Market does its job but it does not change base price too much

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