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Freighter nerf
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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-06-04 23:53:10 UTC
why are people talking about nano plating? it sucks.
inertia stabilisers though are awesome.
Massive reduction in my daily hauling times.
Long live the freighter buff and bring the new warp speed lows to market asap.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2014-06-05 07:14:33 UTC
For years we told people the frieghters would be nerfed if CCP gave in to their demands for low or rig slots. You people nerfed yourselves and now us gankers get to have our fun while singing "told you so".
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#23 - 2014-06-05 07:22:13 UTC
I'm surprised there wasn't an enormous thread with lots of dev posts about this a few weeks ago.

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Shinzhi Xadi
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-06-06 06:42:04 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Just one fact:

An Ark - fitted for tank - can now gain upwards of 700k EHP. Gank that, I dare you.


Try Ark + 3x A-type ANP + High Grade Slaves + 8% armor implant (slot 10)..

Gives a bit over 1 MILLION EHP.

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Alex Harumichi
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#25 - 2014-06-06 11:07:12 UTC
Lido Seahawk wrote:
To get may cargo space back to where it is, I have to destroy my tank. To get my tank close to where it was, I have to nerf the hell out of my cargo.


Um, what am I missing here?

When I look at at the Obelisk with pyfa 1.1.22 (pre-Kronos), it shows it as having 201k ehp.

When I fire up the new pyfa (1.2), it shows the Obelisk with 236k ehp, without any lowslot modules fitted.

Is this a bug in pyfa, or did they actually buff the base ehp of the Obelisk?
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#26 - 2014-06-06 11:09:42 UTC
Burizmali wrote:
So add a low slot mod with no cpu usage that gives shield resists and add a set of implants for shields that work like slaves and presto balance can be restored Shocked


LOL. This would be hillarious. Let's break the game for every other class of ship just so our non-combat frieghters in our combat-oriented game can be a little more balanced.

Yeah I dont think so
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-06-06 13:42:22 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Burizmali wrote:
So add a low slot mod with no cpu usage that gives shield resists and add a set of implants for shields that work like slaves and presto balance can be restored Shocked


LOL. This would be hillarious. Let's break the game for every other class of ship just so our non-combat frieghters in our combat-oriented game can be a little more balanced.

Yeah I dont think so

Couldn't two of the freighters get a couple midslots and a low? With 3 PG and a small amount of CPU I wouldn't see an issue that could pop up.
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2014-06-06 16:33:15 UTC
Hakaari Inkuran wrote:
Couldn't two of the freighters get a couple midslots and a low? With 3 PG and a small amount of CPU I wouldn't see an issue that could pop up.

If you have the CPU for an invulnerability field you can fit a DCU II instead. And a DCU II would be OP on any freighter. Without CPU midslots are rather pointless.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#29 - 2014-06-07 05:27:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Maldiro Selkurk
baltec1 wrote:
For years we told people the frieghters would be nerfed if CCP gave in to their demands for low or rig slots. You people nerfed yourselves and now us gankers get to have our fun while singing "told you so".



As I'm hauling 1.2mil plus m3 of ore I feel horribly nerfed compared to my previous 900kish m3 of ore. Also slapping on dirt cheap tank when I want it, awesome. Please CCP keep nerfing my ships this way!

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2014-06-07 14:45:52 UTC
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:



As I'm hauling 1.2mil plus m3 of ore I feel horribly nerfed compared to my previous 900kish m3 of ore. Also slapping on dirt cheap tank when I want it, awesome. Please CCP keep nerfing my ships this way!


Don't you go spoiling a perfectly good grr nerf thread by getting all adaptive on us.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#31 - 2014-06-07 14:55:10 UTC
Lido Seahawk wrote:
Why can't I fit a DCU to my freighter? I guess I didn't study hard enough, but I thought the point of putting low on freighters was to make them more flexible, not nerf the heck out of them. To get may cargo space back to where it is, I have to destroy my tank. To get my tank close to where it was, I have to nerf the hell out of my cargo.

They couldn't make it so I could use the slots to get back to where I was? Because, you know, just like my car, I wake up up one day and suddenly the trunk won't hold as much and all the metal magically became plastic.

Having trouble with the concept. Probably get flamed, but can someone explain why freighters now have low slots yet can't can't fit a DCU?

Thanks.



No. Your car got retrofit for more cargo space, so they had to use lighter flimsier metal, now it holds more but takes damage easier. Or you added armor plates to it and now it holds less.

Logic =/= magic.

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