Warfare & Tactics

Posting in a Benny & the Jets thread! Woohoo mom look at me \o/

All the code is are bullies and they are about to kill a major part of new players by setting up an event to kill ventures and noob's in rookie systems. At the moment all the code really wants are killmails and say hey look at us we are the bad a** players of eve. The only reason i did those speeches against the code was to get everyone to know how they treat other players of eve. Their mental attitude is to have everyone in high sec play the way they want eve players to play. By what ganking other players and fueling your own killmails.

A majority of us don't give a flying rip about killmails we decide to either build the game and develop an area of the games foundation, and all the code is doing is taking that foundation and ripping it apart. On their main website code takes the pleasure of using us high sec carebears and showing anyone who reads the site on how violent we are in local.

All we are doing is treating the code how they treat us.(this is where the old saying comes in: "treat others the way you want to be treated")

I prefer to use the truth as a weapon and those who cant handle it can cry me a river build me a bridge and get over it. Right now if code gets to gank as many ventures and kills a good part of the players who play eve. Then that means a couple of things:

1. Code is using the Eula agreement to their advantage
2. Telling everyone who is in high sec to play their way when it is a sandbox game which means everyone is allowed to do what ever they want to do in eve
3. the Eula Agreement is an agreement that lets other people know before playing a game that we want people who understand what they are getting into and know what can happen if something does happen
4. Eve is made for everyone not just a few(the needs of many outweigh the few)

CCP I urge you do so something because i am not leaving this game because i love playing eve with friends. And i do encourage to to get on these idiots who are playing you for fouls because the last thing i want to see is eve go down the toilet like a game i use to play called global agenda(only hackers, multiboxers, losers play it now) and when the game community had asked for something to be done about them and they had left it to the needs of few instead of listening to the needs of many.

CCP you need to draw a fine line of where old players cannot become a few players then those few players pick on everyone just to say hey look at us we are the bada** players of eve and we have cause a majority of eve to leave game. That is something i will stand up against and enough is enough.

CODE have been extorting other players which is legal in the game but picking on other players and having them hang and dry on their main website and saying look at how these players treat us and we should kill them all just to fuel our needs. so when did the needs of a few outweigh the many. it never did.

I do in fact encourage other players to not buy a permit to use what ever weapon they have against the code and not give them any respect or honor because respect and honor is earned and it can never be taken.

the code needs to earn its respect as well as its honor. It has none and never will be since they are using the mechanics and systems for their own fun.

And should i remind everyone eve is a sandbox game and anything can happen in it. But when you have an opposing force come in and say how everyone should play the game and only to use everyone else for their own fun is just plain wrong. Since when did playing a sandbox MMO start to become an Empire Build game where only a few players play it(ie less then 200).

The code and everyone who hates be is allowed to have their own opinion but the moment you say my opinion is not like yours sorry but you can not shove your own opinion down mine and say what you want and get your ways when i am around. I like to help other players and have each player have their own voice instead of everyone having 1 voice.

The best Leaders to ever lead, lead by example never by force or fear.

I hope you see the irony in you complaining about how Code plays the game. We do not disagree with Eve being a sandbox, we are playing in a sandbox, if you don't like the way we are playing, oh well, it's a sandbox.



That isn't remotely what the EULA is about.



Not sure how that's relevant.



CCP created the environment and the rules, and Code plays by those rules in that environment. CCP created a game about internet spaceship violence. Code is fulfilling CCP's vision of what Eve is all about.



Wow. Grammar, use it. I'm not sure what that is actually trying to say, but whatever the first part was, it turned into gibberish. As to the second part, are you actually going to argue that Code has caused 'a majority of eve to leave game'? Really? Show numbers to support your statement. Show us a graph showing Eve's population since the advent of Code.

Are you actually suggesting that the best way to protect yourself from Code is to block them? Guys Dryson invented a new tanking style! It's called denial tanking!

Now that our Carebear-rage-bounties have been redeemed by a true Hero of New Eden, the number of white knights opposing us has plummeted.

So much for their cause I guess...

FREE SPACE!

"Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com"

No, actually, no guilty conscience at all. And no desire to help fund the CODE Pyramid scheme, either. I wonder how long until that James fellow absconds with the funds CODE has collected?

Dryson's thread here is not titled well. He seems to despise CODE more than anything and would like to see their downfall. His early postings had . . . Potential to become something more, but he is clearly not up to the task of encouraging and organizing the downfall, or simply the reduction of influence, of CODE. A pity, as they are an overbearing, pretentious, and annoying lot.

Really, CODE is simply just an organized crime protection racket with the trappings of a religious cult. Really? Trying to claim the morale high ground while practicing blackmail/extortion?

What does CODE, in essence, offer? They give players two choices:
1) We'll kill you!

or

2) Pay us money, and obey us, or we'll still kill you!

Hmmm. . . Damned if I do, damned if I don't . . .

No, the Code cult, despite their claims, is not the savior of High-Sec. But is definitely one of the problems.

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Good luck, safe flying, and be excellent to one another!

What Starfox said.

I in no way support or condone behaviour that breaches the EULA or TOS, any if you think a player has done so, Code or not, please report them to CCP and let them sort it out.

Let me first state that I am not an agent of the CODE. While I find their actions intriguing, their style of play doesn't match mine. We peacefully coexist, and I to frequent the minerbumping channel for some interesting chats and intel.

With that said, you have some serious misconceptions about CODE. pilots and operations.

1. They are largely funded by player donations, not loot drops from ganking, and not permit sales. These are nice additions to their income of course, but most of it comes directly from players donating to their cause.

2. CODE. agents are generally among the least lazy players I've ever interacted with. They actively seek targets, they communicate and coordinate with others, and they rely very heavily on something that escapes the grasp of many of their targets: teamwork. That's not lazy. Lazy is sitting on a gate in losec/nullsec waiting for something to maybe come through a gate so you can maybe get a shot off at it.

3. CODE. pilots spend a great deal of time learning the capabilities of their ships, the skills they need to train to maximize their performance, the capabilities of their targets, how to operate in hisec with poor security statuses, and how to fly together in a fleet under a competent FC. That's not lazy either.

3. Ask any experienced PvP-er and they will tell you that proper target selection is the key to winning any fight. Pick fights you can win, avoid ones you can't. (Side note: this is a large part of the reason why nullsec is devolving into a "blue donut". Can't beat the big boys? Go home, or join them.) CODE. agents are the absolute masters of target selection. Even if you disagree with their choice of targets on moral or ethical grounds (which you obviously do), you cannot argue with the tactical wisdom of it.

4. I've been on voice comms with them during their Burn Aufay campaign. I was there watching, chatting, and enjoying the occasional bounty killmail (which they were hapy to see me earn). Their voice comms sounded like any other well-organized fleet comms that I've ever been in, not the raving bunch of sociopathic PvP failures that they are made out to be.


In short, you may disagree with what CODE. agents do or what they stand for, but you any attempt to call them lazy, unskilled, or mentally deranged are, for the most part*, utter misrepresentations.



*DISCLAIMER: I say "for the most part" because, as with any organization, there will be exceptions. Just covering my butt here....

A scholar and a gentleman. Your portrait is always a welcome sight in local. I have yet to have the pleasure of being on Comms with you but would love to change that at some point. As to your disclaimer, it is true, any organization that involves human beings of any kind will inevitably have the odd bad apple.

I have genuinely toyed with such a notion. I would love nothing more than to have an endless stream of good fights generated by a Red vs. Blue style eternal struggle going on in hisec between CODE. agents and some anti-CODE. group. I can state with fair certainty that CODE. would welcome such a war, and I sincerely think such a war would be good for the overall EvE Community as well.

Ironically, such a successful war would have to not be about anti-ganking ideology. As much as I'm a fan of roleplaying, in this situation the ideology driving the current crop of anti-CODE. folks gets in the way of what they'd have to do to actually fight you. They are blinded by their false notions of you, and therefore can never successfully fight you.

To fight the CODE., you have to understand the CODE. Anti-gankers don't (at least not currently), and they will continue to fail until they do.

Sadly, I recognize my own shortcomings, and with my limited/erratic schedule of online time I am not the pilot to start such a glorious revolution. But if ever a war were to break out, I would gladly join. On which side, I cannot say. For now, I am content to pontificate, communicate, and, on occasion, eradicate.