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Gila

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Patrick Berlin
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#41 - 2014-06-06 17:20:59 UTC
Junkkmann wrote:
take it all back, its a beast.
didnt try augmented drones but did buy some faciton drones and they can are mini-beasts.

i dont have perfect drone skills but there were regularly hitting for 500 wrecking shots.

ate a blood arch templar in like 3 seconds.


Try with some Augmented Vespas (I'm in Gurista space) and they 3 shot cruisers, one shot most smaller stuff.

pewpew

Penn Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-06-06 18:59:22 UTC
Anyone got a good fit for the Gila? Are you using any of the new faction modules?
Deviant X
Deviant Inc
#43 - 2014-06-06 20:31:33 UTC
Anybody use the new Gila to run level 3/4 missions?
Grail
High Order
#44 - 2014-06-06 21:02:39 UTC
I'm also looking for a good Gila fitting - I've been out of game for quite some time, and just came back. I'm looking at getting my feet wet (again...) with III and IV missions to get warmed up, before making a decision as to what I REALLY want to do.

If anyone could be generous/helpful enough to post some fitting ideas, I would be grateful. Alternatively, if someone could point me in the direction of a good website for such things, that would be great too. I don't have a tremendous amount of free time, so a little spoon feeding helps an old timer like myself.

Thanks in advance,

-G
Burtzum
Det Som Engang Var
#45 - 2014-06-06 22:06:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Burtzum
I dunno, I use my Gila for exploration. For a newbie running missions, I might suggest something like this:

LOWS
Shield Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier x3

MEDIUMS
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II x3
EM Ward Field II (or whatever damage type the rats are shooting at you.)
10MN Afterburner

HIGHS
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II x4
Small Tractor Beam

RIGS
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II x3

DRONES
Valkyrie II x2
Infiltrator II x2
Vespa II x2
Hammerhead II x2

Use the missile launchers to take out frigates while directing the drones to attack larger targets. Orbit a beacon, can, or wreck with the afterburner turned on to mitigate incoming damage.

EDIT: Just put a Gila together with this fit and ran a lvl 4 Damsel in Distress. You won't be able to blitz the mission like you can in a Tengu but if you don't mind killing everything in a methodical fashion and minding triggers and whatnot, it works.

EDIT 2: Also tried lvl 4 Angel Extravaganza with this fit. Never went below 80% shields. Then I did the bonus room, took me down to 55% shields. This was with an explosive ward in place of the EM ward.
JrLUK
Rogue Pinapples
#46 - 2014-06-06 23:31:21 UTC
My current fit is:

4 x HAM II's

2 x Stasis Web II
1 x Warp Scram II
1 x LSE II
1 x Large Supplemental Barrier Emmiter
1 x 10mn MWD II

3 x DDA II
1x DCU II

1 empty slow but youd only use it for a drone range mod anyway and with HAM's you dont need it. Does nearly 800 DPS and with Caldari navy or Fed navy drones its a beast.

J

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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#47 - 2014-06-07 22:46:24 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
The Gila is definately living up to promise, I am using faction drones, and they rip through everything. They seem to hold up very well to damage and so long as they don't get webbed, you are fine, even then they seem to kill the webber ok and get out on their own.

This is a good ship and congratulations to CCP Rise and Fozzie.

The rattlesnake though is a different story........Sad

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Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#48 - 2014-06-08 19:55:26 UTC
I'd say the Gila is a little too strong. 500 percent increase in damage and tank for all medium drones? Sure you can only put out 2 drones but that's like flying 10 unbonused medium drones.

http://haha.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23889855

I don't claim to be some frig legend all star but I haven't lost too many drams. I didn't expect to take this fight (gila's wreck frigs) but I completely but I melted in under 10 seconds. The fact that Gila's went from 170ish mil in price to over 360 is a bit telling.

I'd just perhaps lower the drone bonus a touch, maybe just 300 percent and i'm starting to wonder if medium drones being able to track a dram going 1600 (unheated) with AB.
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
New Eden Corporation 98713347
Brotherhood of Spacers
#49 - 2014-06-09 02:13:20 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
I'd say the Gila is a little too strong. 500 percent increase in damage and tank for all medium drones? Sure you can only put out 2 drones but that's like flying 10 unbonused medium drones.

http://haha.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23889855

I don't claim to be some frig legend all star but I haven't lost too many drams. I didn't expect to take this fight (gila's wreck frigs) but I completely but I melted in under 10 seconds. The fact that Gila's went from 170ish mil in price to over 360 is a bit telling.

I'd just perhaps lower the drone bonus a touch, maybe just 300 percent and i'm starting to wonder if medium drones being able to track a dram going 1600 (unheated) with AB.

12 Medium drones, Not 10. And yeah, CCP went alittle overboard with the Gila
Obearoth HuanTao
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-06-09 02:33:14 UTC
I could try to explain it, but tbh, most all the answers are outside that box you sit in.
Take some trips to low sec, or even null in some cheap skank, and you rejoyce when the beauty of a ship that is Gila rips you a new one, and when your dead corps lies there in space, perhaps you relearn WTF kinda ship it has become!
Fly Dangerous

And I've got one great piece of news for you, that gila of your is now worth far more then you paid for it, SELL IT FAST Blink

Junkkmann wrote:
if I am reading the patch notes correctly, Gila's are losing most of their bandwidth and 200 of their drone capacity.
Too close to a Ishtar so it had to be changed or what?
will CCP be issuing refunds for it since its value will probably plummet now?

Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#51 - 2014-06-09 02:53:25 UTC
Gila BPCs have gone from 110mil to around 230mil, the people who invested in them are having a field day.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#52 - 2014-06-09 03:28:16 UTC
Hey, if anyone doesn't want their GILA... feel free to contract it to me for 140mil... what it was worth about six weeks ago.

Contract it in Jita and I'll pay 160mil.

Sell it or fly it. Your call.





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Gefen Orion
Icebox Industries
#53 - 2014-06-09 10:05:48 UTC
The Gila has been changed. You lost the ability to field 5 sentries, 5 heavies, 5 mediums, 5 lights, 5 utility drones (ecm)...all of these in exchange for 500% bonus damage + health on medium drones and a 50% bonus damage to kin and therm missiles.

The GIla and the Ishtar's playstyle were too similar in many areas...That was before the buff to the ishtar. After the buff to the ishtar (which made it really effective as a close up brawler with ogres II flying around at 2.68km/sec doing 830 eft dps on 0.813 tracking) and the flexibility to field sentries, mediums and lights as situation dictates, the Ishtar was in a very good position.

Not so with the Gila, with no bonuses to drone utility (tracking or mwd speed), the GIla was a poor imitation of the ishtar. I think that was the reason for the changes. The ishtar and the gila needed to be different in terms of playstyle and effectiveness.

Well, the Gila now is a different beast to quote one of the posters on this thread. A true drone and missile hybrid. You can't rely solely on your drones anymore. You need to use the missile bonus.

But still, when looking at the ishtar buffs and looking at the gila buffs right now, i can't helped feeling that the gila got the short end of the stick....

gila's 2 hammerhead IIs with 4 dda = 664 dps, 3.28km/sec (one drone nav II), .696 tracking speed
gila's 4 HAMs with furies = 243 dps
ishtar 5 ogre IIs with 4 dda = 830 dps, 2.68km/sec (one drone nav II), 0.813 tracking speed (one omni tracking enhancer)
ishtar 4 200mm rail with jav = 177 dps

Very small differences in terms of paper performance but completely different playstyle now. RIP sniping Gila. Long live the GIla brawler!

Oh, the new GIla is a monster in pvp, not so much at pve...
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#54 - 2014-06-09 11:49:41 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
I'd say the Gila is a little too strong. 500 percent increase in damage and tank for all medium drones? Sure you can only put out 2 drones but that's like flying 10 unbonused medium drones.

http://haha.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23889855

I don't claim to be some frig legend all star but I haven't lost too many drams. I didn't expect to take this fight (gila's wreck frigs) but I completely but I melted in under 10 seconds. The fact that Gila's went from 170ish mil in price to over 360 is a bit telling.

I'd just perhaps lower the drone bonus a touch, maybe just 300 percent and i'm starting to wonder if medium drones being able to track a dram going 1600 (unheated) with AB.



Well, the ratting fit i'm currently working on will not only wreck frigates like your little group in - as you said - 10 seconds, no, the Valkyries will even catch frigs going heated MWD. *cough 7km/s*.

Yeah, the Gila is terrifying. I like it :)
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