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EVE's "No Fight" Culture

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Solecist Project
#41 - 2014-05-31 02:51:16 UTC
I know Lee from years ago...

Not trustworthy at all.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#42 - 2014-05-31 02:54:16 UTC
Oh yeah I forgot this part.

I feel with you. There's not only a "no fight", but also a"no effort" crowd,
going out of their way to make sure things are as less hassle as possible and calling it efficient.

Which is actually just boring.



Thanks for this thread.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-05-31 02:58:51 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
The systems you are listing are historically cluster****s of semi-blobby to blobby gate camps waiting for something to jump through. I remember Oldman star quite well, the trick was not so much getting your frigate past the camps it was scoring an actual 1v1 at a planet without interference and getting out again before his buddies arrived.

Scipio Artelius wrote:


Flying in the less busy ones doesn't mean there is a culture of "no fights" in EvE. It just means you need to fly in other areas.


*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

I absolutely did not say there are "no fights" in eve. I am clearly referring to the "No fight" culture where people do not want to pew pew unless the cards are stacked considerably in their favor.

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Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#44 - 2014-05-31 03:03:10 UTC
what am i doing in eve? playing a game built around spaceships with other people. Some of them like me and we get along and do fleets and stuff, some dont like me and they engage me in combat and we go till one flies away in an egg, Admittedly i havent done any null and my low experience has been no more than flying through empty space to a set location. But i havent raged or cried when bad things have happened to my spaceships
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#45 - 2014-05-31 03:40:09 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Scipio Artelius wrote:

In your last reply you wrote that you don't even think about lowsec.


No, I said I don't think about Faction War.

Scipio Artelius wrote:
So is it safe to assume that you don't know because you don't think about it often and don't fly in lowsec much?


*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
I fly in low sec quite a bit. I see FW, not so much. And, no, this is my main. I stopped active PvP a while back because it got boring camping endless stations and gates, dealing with alliance mates that were absolutely untrustworthy and waiting for the next blob to roll around.

So yeah, I just wander around eve, retired. But I do have eyes, and make a complete transit of eve about once every three months, much to the irritation of a wide range of bubble ranchers.

I grant not undocking in the face of overwhelming firepower is sensible. But I've seen a lot of people drip what they are doing and run at even the slightest hint of a possible challenge and stay gone until dead certain they had overwhelming superiority themselves or the threat left.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#46 - 2014-05-31 04:09:00 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:

In your last reply you wrote that you don't even think about lowsec.


No, I said I don't think about Faction War.

Scipio Artelius wrote:
So is it safe to assume that you don't know because you don't think about it often and don't fly in lowsec much?
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
I fly in low sec quite a bit. I see FW, not so much. And, no, this is my main. I stopped active PvP a while back because it got boring camping endless stations and gates, dealing with alliance mates that were absolutely untrustworthy and waiting for the next blob to roll around.

So yeah, I just wander around eve, retired. But I do have eyes, and make a complete transit of eve about once every three months, much to the irritation of a wide range of bubble ranchers.

I grant not undocking in the face of overwhelming firepower is sensible. But I've seen a lot of people drip what they are doing and run at even the slightest hint of a possible challenge and stay gone until dead certain they had overwhelming superiority themselves or the threat left.

Yep fair enough on FW v lowsec in general.

*Snip* Removed reply to an edited out part of the quoted post. ISD Ezwal.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#47 - 2014-05-31 04:30:37 UTC
its more of a competitive culture. People don't want to lose unnecessarily and give their enemy more wins.

although some people have a balls deep attitude which is always more fun.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#48 - 2014-05-31 04:52:08 UTC
Removed some off topic posts. Please keep it on topic and civil. Thank you.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2014-05-31 06:07:15 UTC
Never agree to a 1v1 because it won't be a 1v1.

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Snakebyte Jack
AcT Legion
#50 - 2014-05-31 06:28:00 UTC
Here at RVB we fight constantly. Come join the fun !
Solecist Project
#51 - 2014-05-31 07:23:37 UTC
Snakebyte Jack wrote:
Here at RVB we fight constantly. Come join the fun !

And people in RvB are that much different?

Too many people being dependent on an FC to even undock.

Ridiculous.

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Dalto Bane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2014-05-31 08:16:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Serene Repose wrote:
Heh. Maybe it's just me. But, I'm doing what I want to do with my subscription and I really don't see how that involves YOU (OP)! In fact, there's a new breed of player that's swamping our little home here that seems to think they have some overarching say over what other people DO or WANT to do. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

I do hope you're not one of these.

tyvm Have a nice day.


I may not necessarily agree with your post, I do love your words. Though I hope that, in the future, existing mechanics are fixed to make few immune to Pvp, I am inclined to agree with Serene in one aspect, that it is individual subscriptions and they can choose to fight or not to fight. I often do not agree with the "It's a PvP game" since there is much more to Eve than just PvP.

Drops Mic
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#53 - 2014-05-31 08:58:42 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
The systems you are listing are historically cluster****s of semi-blobby to blobby gate camps waiting for something to jump through. I remember Oldman star quite well, the trick was not so much getting your frigate past the camps it was scoring an actual 1v1 at a planet without interference and getting out again before his buddies arrived.

Scipio Artelius wrote:


Flying in the less busy ones doesn't mean there is a culture of "no fights" in EvE. It just means you need to fly in other areas.


*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

I absolutely did not say there are "no fights" in eve. I am clearly referring to the "No fight" culture where people do not want to pew pew unless the cards are stacked considerably in their favor.


because sandbox?

if you really want fights go to the areas with people who want fights. don't impose it on people that doesn't wan't to.

believe me there are alot of people in low sec who wants 1vs1 fights.

i'm a newb but i might take you on and go brawling with you in my atron.

Just Add Water
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#54 - 2014-05-31 09:08:01 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

I absolutely did not say there are "no fights" in eve. I am clearly referring to the "No fight" culture where people do not want to pew pew unless the cards are stacked considerably in their favor.

*Snip* Removed reply to an edited out part of the quoted post. ISD Ezwal.

A culture of 'no fights' === 'no fights' culture. (Read the full sentence i wrote. I think you'll find it clearly refers to the culture).

Same thing, just written the opposite way. This is why in my first response i specifically didn't interpret anything outside what you wrote. As soon as it doesnt suit your purpose, you just attack the poster, rather than just recognising the equivalence of the discussion.

On your other Old Man Star comment, its not so commonly camped anymore. Back just before TEST joined FW, Galmil pushed Calmil out of OMS and Ladistier. That forced Soul Takers out for a short period until Old Man Gang forced their way back in. However since, the Villore gate in OMS isnt as difficult to jump through as it used to be. The system itself is still great for fighting though, along with Heydieles and Abune/Fliet.
GreenSeed
#55 - 2014-05-31 12:06:56 UTC
in my time, when someone went looking for a fight, he would slap the would-be dueler with a white glove and demand satisfaction.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Insidious.
#56 - 2014-05-31 13:44:42 UTC
If everyone is assumed to be a rational actor, then game theory says that in a zero sum game the optimal play is to refuse all voluntary offers made to you.
Tsuruki
Perkone
Caldari State
#57 - 2014-05-31 14:10:17 UTC
In my opinion you shouldnt be looking to play eve on SiSi, if you want to pvp or just play the game just uninstall SiSi and re-discover Eve the way its meant to be played.

Playing on SiSi distorts your view of actual Eve gameplay, SiSi is meant to test new things, not to play Eve on easy mode.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#58 - 2014-05-31 15:54:15 UTC
I was about to reply about the hilarity when someone on a TEST server starts talking about avoiding risks. But I found a post largely sharing my opinion of this "analysis". So I just gave that a "+1".
Ahost Gceo
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-05-31 17:00:23 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
There are no fair fights an Eve *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

CCP ignore me please, I make too much sense.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#60 - 2014-05-31 17:02:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Ahost Gceo wrote:
There are no fair fights an Eve and you are a flipping moron if you think that you are a special cupcake and should receive one just because.



Yea, well... *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

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